Anonymous
02/27/2024 19:01
Subject: McLean should back out
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Anonymous
02/27/2024 17:50
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
By this argument, it means the strongest Union teams exist because of the talented (SYC) players and not due to the McLean coaching or player pool.
Now you are getting it!
That amazing SYC talent pipeline that was so critical to McLean's success has resulted in the following standings:
2011 -7th place
2010- 2nd place
2009- 7th place
2008- 7th place
Perhaps SYC folks believe SYC is better than it really is?
Exactly only the 2010 team has/had a majority of their roster come from SYC, the other three years are more balanced with that rich McLean talent pool
Anonymous
02/27/2024 17:43
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Non-SYC impacted Union teams:
2007- 6th
2006- 3rd
The 06 team has always been strong, even back in the day from when they were in CCL. The 07 team is much improved. The problem with boys in NOVA is they only go to Arlington and Alexandria. There are kids on those benches that would rather sit for those teams then play at Mclean or elsewhere.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 16:35
Subject: McLean should back out
Non-SYC impacted Union teams:
2007- 6th
2006- 3rd
2007- 6th
2006- 3rd
Anonymous
02/27/2024 16:30
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
By this argument, it means the strongest Union teams exist because of the talented (SYC) players and not due to the McLean coaching or player pool.
Now you are getting it!
That amazing SYC talent pipeline that was so critical to McLean's success has resulted in the following standings:
2011 -7th place
2010- 2nd place
2009- 7th place
2008- 7th place
Perhaps SYC folks believe SYC is better than it really is?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 16:21
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
By this argument, it means the strongest Union teams exist because of the talented (SYC) players and not due to the McLean coaching or player pool.
Now you are getting it!
Anonymous
02/27/2024 16:19
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
This seems to be true for any coach in this area. CW got a decent team with the 11’s and what has he done with them?
This is not true for any coach and definitely not CW who has a long track record of development and placement. Don’t even try to say that all of the coaches are the same and that Brave coaches are equal to McLean coaches. When was the last time MV coached a competitive u17 girls team?
Recruiting and development are not the same thing. Not saying that there can’t be coaches that aren’t better for development but all coaches seem to take the credit and deflect the blame. For many years McLean was basically one of two clubs that all high end players went to.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 16:10
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
This seems to be true for any coach in this area. CW got a decent team with the 11’s and what has he done with them?
This is not true for any coach and definitely not CW who has a long track record of development and placement. Don’t even try to say that all of the coaches are the same and that Brave coaches are equal to McLean coaches. When was the last time MV coached a competitive u17 girls team?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 15:19
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
By this argument, it means the strongest Union teams exist because of the talented (SYC) players and not due to the McLean coaching or player pool.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 15:14
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no full line up emailed or communicated yet.trolls are just having fun with anxious parents.
Those parents must not have a kid that they're trying to retain.
Not true. The full line up hasn't been emailed. That isn't to say there hadn't been communication.
The trolls/pot stirring is just getting annoying here.
Release what you have. It’s 2/27. Losing kids every day.
Everyone will know who saved who based on the coaching allocations. McBrave has arrived!
Good. And those coaching allocations are? You have lost 2 kids in the time it’s taken to read this message.
Lost them to who? Another ECNL team can't pick them up until Friday and if they're going to GA they were probably bench players anyway (not that there is anything wrong with that).
My kid signed up for an Arlington session today so they will definitely go to that practice and may take a spot if they like it. It’s after March 1, but we wouldn’t have even signed up if FVU had shown they were organized and released coaches. Tic tic. Your teams are getting worse every day.
Same here -- can't wait around any longer and have a strong feeling the teams are predetermined anyway.
Be patient, although this all may be true it does not mean these players accept the offers currently on the table. Coaching matters otherwise SYC might be more attractive to some girls they will let us know. Then there would more room at FXU Fairfax Crossing United right?
How does it look at SYC older age groups (07-09)? Most of the chatter has been about younger age goups.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 14:44
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no full line up emailed or communicated yet.trolls are just having fun with anxious parents.
Those parents must not have a kid that they're trying to retain.
Not true. The full line up hasn't been emailed. That isn't to say there hadn't been communication.
The trolls/pot stirring is just getting annoying here.
Release what you have. It’s 2/27. Losing kids every day.
Everyone will know who saved who based on the coaching allocations. McBrave has arrived!
Good. And those coaching allocations are? You have lost 2 kids in the time it’s taken to read this message.
Lost them to who? Another ECNL team can't pick them up until Friday and if they're going to GA they were probably bench players anyway (not that there is anything wrong with that).
My kid signed up for an Arlington session today so they will definitely go to that practice and may take a spot if they like it. It’s after March 1, but we wouldn’t have even signed up if FVU had shown they were organized and released coaches. Tic tic. Your teams are getting worse every day.
Same here -- can't wait around any longer and have a strong feeling the teams are predetermined anyway.
Be patient, although this all may be true it does not mean these players accept the offers currently on the table. Coaching matters otherwise SYC might be more attractive to some girls they will let us know. Then there would more room at FXU Fairfax Crossing United right?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 14:24
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no full line up emailed or communicated yet.trolls are just having fun with anxious parents.
Those parents must not have a kid that they're trying to retain.
Not true. The full line up hasn't been emailed. That isn't to say there hadn't been communication.
The trolls/pot stirring is just getting annoying here.
Release what you have. It’s 2/27. Losing kids every day.
Everyone will know who saved who based on the coaching allocations. McBrave has arrived!
Good. And those coaching allocations are? You have lost 2 kids in the time it’s taken to read this message.
Lost them to who? Another ECNL team can't pick them up until Friday and if they're going to GA they were probably bench players anyway (not that there is anything wrong with that).
My kid signed up for an Arlington session today so they will definitely go to that practice and may take a spot if they like it. It’s after March 1, but we wouldn’t have even signed up if FVU had shown they were organized and released coaches. Tic tic. Your teams are getting worse every day.
Same here -- can't wait around any longer and have a strong feeling the teams are predetermined anyway.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 14:23
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
This seems to be true for any coach in this area. CW got a decent team with the 11’s and what has he done with them?
Anonymous
02/27/2024 13:40
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
And they all ended up in much better situations.
This sums up MV in a nutshell. No real coaching or development. If it goes well, it’s because the team has talent and he’ll take credit. If it doesn’t, full spin cycle. He wasn’t the coach or it’s the players fault for sucking. He’ll claim victory for the 08s relative success. He’s not listed as the coach but he’s the coach in this case. 09s crash and burn, he’s not the coach. He’ll demand that he coaches the 08 at Union for a third year because good players overcome mediocre coaching. No real substance. I can confirm that they did not all end up in a much better situation.
Anonymous
02/27/2024 13:33
Subject: McLean should back out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be shocked if MV got teams and 1 if anything...either he is an awful coach or he never had the players at BRAVE that allowed him to play his style
Then be prepared to be shocked. It’s a partnership - BRAVE players and families want MV. He will be coaching teams too.
Thank you! Where is all of this anti-MV stuff coming from? He's really good -- clear, honest, straightforward. My daughter appreciated him as a coach.
Because he’s accomplished nothing at this level and he isn’t a strong brand to attract players or college coaches.
MV had a whole age group quit on him and leave the club. That’s a huge red flag.
Wrong. He was not the coach.
Sure. The same way he not the coach of the Brave 08s now?