Anonymous wrote:Name misspelled or incorrect info in the report.

another kids name in the report!

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1. We aren’t quite ready for your meeting so wait here for twenty minutes when it’s obvious everyone else is in a pre- meeting to discuss your child.

2. Your kid is fine now, but they’ll likely fail in middle school so wait until then.

3. A friend’s kid- your child’s dyslexia is so severe so go buy tutoring somewhere else. This was documented on PWN stupidly so friend’s kid got an unplanned non-public placement.

Also, not an IEP, but LEP family- at a high school- come back when you know more English.

OMG the pre meeting definitely should be on the BINGO board, and and extra bonus square if you overhear parts of the pre-meeting where someone is being unprofessional and just complaining about MOM.

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1. We aren’t quite ready for your meeting so wait here for twenty minutes when it’s obvious everyone else is in a pre- meeting to discuss your child.

2. Your kid is fine now, but they’ll likely fail in middle school so wait until then.

3. A friend’s kid- your child’s dyslexia is so severe so go buy tutoring somewhere else. This was documented on PWN stupidly so friend’s kid got an unplanned non-public placement.

Also, not an IEP, but LEP family- at a high school- come back when you know more English.

You really can’t even imagine that parents have had a horrible time getting their children services and accomodations? Do you think we are just making this up?

Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread makes me roll my eyes out of my head. The school is not your enemy. Believe it or not, they want to help your kid.

Agree

Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread makes me roll my eyes out of my head. The school is not your enemy. Believe it or not, they want to help your kid.

Have you ever wondered why so many parents are so jaded about IEP meetings? Or, are you unable to move from your entrenched bias that parents are too demanding and lack expertise in education?

Name misspelled or incorrect info in the report.

Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread makes me roll my eyes out of my head. The school is not your enemy. Believe it or not, they want to help your kid.

Stop gaslighting parents. There is nothing in the law that prevents schools from "helping". They can "help" and be in compliance with the law at the same time.

Mostly they just gaslight parents - trying to get them to believe that their kids are "fine" and don't need any help at all or not as much as is being asked for.

Reading this thread makes me roll my eyes out of my head. The school is not your enemy. Believe it or not, they want to help your kid.

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"We are still waiting for <key personnel here> to join us" 20 minutes late when the meeting will end after 45 minutes because their free zoom sub cuts out..

Anyone brave enough to hold the meeting until an entire IEP team is present?

I could not believe how meetings occur with people going in and out.

You guys know..the team members are coming from teaching your kid right !? Like… they have to be in the classroom at times, not just in hours and hours of meetings. They’re doing their best to be on time.

The purpose of scheduling a meeting is to ensure attendees, particularly key attendees, are available and can attend. If you are unable to arrange coverage, you should speak with your administrators.

Additionally, it is highly disrespectful to parents who, you know, have to take time off work, to show such disregard for their time.

Plus the law mandates that certain personnel must be members of the IEP team - if those members are not there when key decisions are taken or i formation is presented, then the team is not properly constituted, and the school is out of compliance. Tape meetings. Object when IEP required team members leave, point out that IDEA requires X team member, ask to have the meeting continued at another time when all legal team members can be present, ask to have it documented in the PWN together with the reason why.

You need permission to tape or otherwise record meetings. I was only allowed to take notes, so I had an advocate with me

In MCPS, it is your right to tape. The law may vary by school district or state - see here - https://www.wrightslaw.com/blog/tape-recording-iep-meetings-what-does-the-law-say/

If you are told that you can't tape the meeting because it's "private", it's actually your right of privacy at play. Teachers are public employees performing a professional duty and they have no "privacy right" in your IEP meeting.

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"We are still waiting for <key personnel here> to join us" 20 minutes late when the meeting will end after 45 minutes because their free zoom sub cuts out..

Anyone brave enough to hold the meeting until an entire IEP team is present?

I could not believe how meetings occur with people going in and out.

You guys know..the team members are coming from teaching your kid right !? Like… they have to be in the classroom at times, not just in hours and hours of meetings. They’re doing their best to be on time.

Sorry, it's the law. The school has an obligation to provide specified team members and if that means arranging coverage, then they have to do it. An IEP team that does not meet with the required staff is "out of compliance" and if a decision is made that is later the subject of a complaint or suit, the potential liability to the school system is great. As a taxpayer, I prefer the school get their sh*^%t together and provide coverage. There are many ways of doing this.

Also, perhaps if the team didn't screw up and make wrong decisions that they then have to spend even more time fixing, they wouldn't be in endless meetings.

I can't tell you the number of times I've had to re-request a meeting for the team to get things right - not minor things either - major things! I see this happen frequently with other parents as well. It boggles my mind how much time the school wastes due to their ignorance or discriminatory mindset.

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Anonymous wrote:Your DS is so smart that when the teachers can’t understand what he’s saying (significant speech impediment caused by partially paralyzed tongue), he just writes it down now. I’m not convinced an IEP is necessary any longer. I’m sorry… what? He’s 5 and, while making substantial progress, is still only 1/3rd intelligible to strangers.

Is that able to be treated by the speech teacher?

DP. The speech therapist providing related services can work with the student on speech/communication goals.

In my district, the issue was that they only had 2 speech therapists. So they did anything to avoid putting it into the IEP.

What was the diagnosis that caused a paralyzed tongue? That’s not usually reversible or “treatable” like other developmental articulation or speech issues.

Your district/county only had two speech therapists in the district/county? That doesn’t sound right.

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Anonymous wrote:Your DS is so smart that when the teachers can’t understand what he’s saying (significant speech impediment caused by partially paralyzed tongue), he just writes it down now. I’m not convinced an IEP is necessary any longer. I’m sorry… what? He’s 5 and, while making substantial progress, is still only 1/3rd intelligible to strangers.

Is that able to be treated by the speech teacher?

DP. The speech therapist providing related services can work with the student on speech/communication goals.

In my district, the issue was that they only had 2 speech therapists. So they did anything to avoid putting it into the IEP.

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Anonymous wrote:Your DS is so smart that when the teachers can’t understand what he’s saying (significant speech impediment caused by partially paralyzed tongue), he just writes it down now. I’m not convinced an IEP is necessary any longer. I’m sorry… what? He’s 5 and, while making substantial progress, is still only 1/3rd intelligible to strangers.

Is that able to be treated by the speech teacher?

DP. The speech therapist providing related services can work with the student on speech/communication goals.

Anonymous wrote:Your DS is so smart that when the teachers can’t understand what he’s saying (significant speech impediment caused by partially paralyzed tongue), he just writes it down now. I’m not convinced an IEP is necessary any longer. I’m sorry… what? He’s 5 and, while making substantial progress, is still only 1/3rd intelligible to strangers.

Is that able to be treated by the speech teacher?