Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:50     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:So can someone please confirm if this is for the Girls side as well. My daughter was considering tryout out for Brave 2011 girls since we just moved into this area.


Are you sure you want to do that?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:45     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Say what you want. Doesn’t bother me as the OP. Feel free to point out the “false truths” in my post. You conveniently don’t state what those are. I have a view from the inside looking out. We can then do a scorecard of where I am wrong after all the chips fall on the table in the next 2 weeks


1. NVU and Valor would never be offered an ECNL spot
2. NVA was offered full slate for MLS Next but will not be joining, Revolution was considered for MLS Next youngers

Are you claiming this for just boys side? Boys and girls?

Union and Brave are not necessarily underperforming on girls side, both are terrible on boys side. Both due to lack of talent and coaching. Kevin James being allowed to coach teams is actually comical.


NVU is too small on its own and it has no girls teams. If Loudoun leaves for MLS Next I could see a Valor/GFR/NVU partnership continuing NVA.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:29     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:not a coach nor have a kid in ECNL. I was trying to understand if teams like GFR are no longer affiliated with NVA if they can stay in ECNL-RL


GFR was in ECNL-RL before their short-lived “alliance” with Loudoun and Valor.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:24     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Say what you want. Doesn’t bother me as the OP. Feel free to point out the “false truths” in my post. You conveniently don’t state what those are. I have a view from the inside looking out. We can then do a scorecard of where I am wrong after all the chips fall on the table in the next 2 weeks


1. NVU and Valor would never be offered an ECNL spot
2. NVA was offered full slate for MLS Next but will not be joining, Revolution was considered for MLS Next youngers

Are you claiming this for just boys side? Boys and girls?

Union and Brave are not necessarily underperforming on girls side, both are terrible on boys side. Both due to lack of talent and coaching. Kevin James being allowed to coach teams is actually comical.


1. My comment there was forward looking and speculative. I did not say that was a fact.

2. If true I will concede but I understood younger for both. Minor technicality. Only important if NVU took it as it would put in play another ECNL badge in NOVA most likely.

3. Both in terms of merger. But by strength Union girls dominates and both boys sides struggle. Was unsure what point you were asking on.

4. Agree on KJ but sadly he already has a position of power in current Brave ECNL.

The fact that this post mentions “NVU” - a completely irrelevant club - tells you where this post is coming from.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:23     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That reduces the size of ECNL (fewer clubs and teams). Why would ECNL want that?


Simple. Talent consolidation. The DMV is terribly diluted. NOVA can't support 5 ECNL clubs while also adding now 3 GA options and remain competitive on a national stage.

ECNL is only aggressively expanding and taking GA clubs to kill of GA. Once GA is no longer a credible threat ECNL will then prune the vines through the use of the Regional league for underperforming clubs.


lol at pruning underperforming clubs. Why would they do that? You know how much money one club represents? Also the players at the underperforming clubs still play in college.

You “prune” clubs and there will be a lot of players looking for a new club. Go look at all the ECNL clubs in all the age groups in the DMV. There are a lot of “underperforming” clubs specifically as you move out of the ulittles. The difference in talent between one underperforming club vs another underperforming one is not that great. Once you get past the top 2 players all the other players are just the rest of the team and are totally interchangeable. Travel coaches alway want to change the rest of the team players.

Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:19     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Kevin James is 1 of 2 reps for the East Coast on US Club’s Board of Directors. It’s like a 10 person board. His club isn’t getting the screw job.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

It’s for boys side only, all this noise is because ecnl boys are on life support. GA clubs will feed into new USL Super league clubs that begin play this August as a competitor to NWSL, both leagues will likely merge in due time, so relax. There is room for two burgeoning women’s leagues in the meantime. GA is allowing these clubs to leave because they did not already have MLSN and thus did not have infrastructure or did not have the will to stay the course and be the league that professionalizes women’s soccer for teenage girls through USL. This is good for everyone folks, so take a deep breath. Just diffident methodologies and approaches to supporting players and buildings infrastructure out for women’s soccer. Only loser is ecnl boys ultimately if you have to find a soft spot in all this.

-CEFAQ
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:13     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:Say what you want. Doesn’t bother me as the OP. Feel free to point out the “false truths” in my post. You conveniently don’t state what those are. I have a view from the inside looking out. We can then do a scorecard of where I am wrong after all the chips fall on the table in the next 2 weeks


Who would actually trust you with is information if it were true? Gossip spreading jerk. No one in any position of leadership would trust with any information about the "inside" of their club. One read on here and they've figured you out.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:09     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:So can someone please confirm if this is for the Girls side as well. My daughter was considering tryout out for Brave 2011 girls since we just moved into this area.


Ignore everything on this thread. It's a troll who started it and continues to pour gasoline on anxiety ridden parents. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Tryouts coming March 1 for Brave. Reach out to admin if you need more info. And welcome to the area.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:08     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:So can someone please confirm if this is for the Girls side as well. My daughter was considering tryout out for Brave 2011 girls since we just moved into this area.


No one on any of the teams we know has heard this. Hard to prove a false rumor wrong, but I can definitely say that this is not widely known by everyone at Brave if this is even true.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 10:07     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:So can someone please confirm if this is for the Girls side as well. My daughter was considering tryout out for Brave 2011 girls since we just moved into this area.


Take your daughter to try outs! Nothing is set in stone until publicly announced and everything on this board is rumors and speculation.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 09:59     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

So can someone please confirm if this is for the Girls side as well. My daughter was considering tryout out for Brave 2011 girls since we just moved into this area.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 09:57     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Say what you want. Doesn’t bother me as the OP. Feel free to point out the “false truths” in my post. You conveniently don’t state what those are. I have a view from the inside looking out. We can then do a scorecard of where I am wrong after all the chips fall on the table in the next 2 weeks


1. NVU and Valor would never be offered an ECNL spot
2. NVA was offered full slate for MLS Next but will not be joining, Revolution was considered for MLS Next youngers

Are you claiming this for just boys side? Boys and girls?

Union and Brave are not necessarily underperforming on girls side, both are terrible on boys side. Both due to lack of talent and coaching. Kevin James being allowed to coach teams is actually comical.


1. My comment there was forward looking and speculative. I did not say that was a fact.

2. If true I will concede but I understood younger for both. Minor technicality. Only important if NVU took it as it would put in play another ECNL badge in NOVA most likely.

3. Both in terms of merger. But by strength Union girls dominates and both boys sides struggle. Was unsure what point you were asking on.

4. Agree on KJ but sadly he already has a position of power in current Brave ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 09:54     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:I am not part of any club. I am not spilling anything. Someone else started this thread. I am just confirming that what was stated is true, this deal is done, it’s out in the open at Brave already, and it was pushed by ECNL for club consolidation and competitive improvement. Take them a truths or false truths.


So only for the boys side but playing it off as if it entire clubs.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 09:52     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a done deal. Staff spots being sorted now. Move was forced by ECNL - not by the two clubs. ECNL wants consolidation in Mid Atlantic and two worst performing options were these two. Potomac will more than likely see same in MD next year. Now you roll up to one of four big clubs in NOVA: NVA, VDA, ASA, FVA (Fairfax Virginia Union). NVA (Loudoun) was offered MLS but only for younger age groups and they are teetering on that decision. If they go that way, expect NVU or Valor to slide in and take that ECNL spot possibly with a mash up of other smaller clubs to roll more up. Last remaining shake out is where GFR falls this next season. Right now they can stay R-ECNL but they need to feed into an ECNL program.


For teams to be in ecnl-rl, do they have to have affiliation with ecnl club?
Players can just go where they want.


Thank you ECNL coach!



not a coach nor have a kid in ECNL. I was trying to understand if teams like GFR are no longer affiliated with NVA if they can stay in ECNL-RL