Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:03     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

It’s sad but they took the risk.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:55     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:There are so many people on this board and in this society who won’t care about these deaths or others like them - taking drugs means you get what you get, they think, and you don’t have grounds to complain.

Having Narcan on hand is good, but a person rendered unconscious by opioids doesn’t have the capacity to rescue themselves with Narcan never mind their friends. This is why we need safe sites for drug use, but even if we had them people like these guys wouldn’t go. They should have had a designated friend on hand who wasn’t going to use and could be capable of rescuing or at least calling 911.



We have safe sites for drug use, they are called hospitals. Where you are connected to monitors and under medical supervision. I do not want to live in a society where we have safe spaces for drug use. They are illegal substances for a reason.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:53     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These guys seemed like normal, regular people. I am always surprised about how many people use cocaine. I have done my share of pot and drinking and other stupid decisions, but cocaine I would not touch with a 100 foot pole. Mainly because of that Sweet Valley High book.

But really, no judgement just surprise. Sad.


Coke is rampant with male working professionals. You must live under a rock.


NP. I'm not a finance bro. I have worked in a male dominated industry for 25 years. No one has ever offered me coke. Pot/edibles/alcohol - yes.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:52     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:These guys seemed like normal, regular people. I am always surprised about how many people use cocaine. I have done my share of pot and drinking and other stupid decisions, but cocaine I would not touch with a 100 foot pole. Mainly because of that Sweet Valley High book.

But really, no judgement just surprise. Sad.


I love that
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:48     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:These guys seemed like normal, regular people. I am always surprised about how many people use cocaine. I have done my share of pot and drinking and other stupid decisions, but cocaine I would not touch with a 100 foot pole. Mainly because of that Sweet Valley High book.

But really, no judgement just surprise. Sad.


Coke is rampant with male working professionals. You must live under a rock.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:47     Subject: Re:KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:I watched Nancy Grace’s program yesterday morning on this story & she was going all in…..placing blame on the friend who survived. (The friend who hosted the game at his house.)

She was painting him as a suspicious murderer in my opinion, because he didn’t notice his deceased friends in the backyard for two days.
And also because he didn’t respond to text messages for those two days either.

I have to disagree w/her.
I always believed that the four men partook in drugs together (in spite of their families denying it) + that the host passed out or went to sleep inside the house which is why he ultimately survived.
His body was never exposed to the elements outside.

The reason he didn’t respond to text messages could be that he was just passed out from all the drugs.
I don’t think it is unusual for a person to sleep for two days after ingesting a lot of drugs. 😕

I believe the three men who were found deceased outside had went outside to smoke pot or possibly a cigarette and they passed out from the amount of drugs in their systems.
Period.

Their own faults.
I doubt the man who survived actually murdered them.


She's an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:42     Subject: Re:KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:48     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

These guys seemed like normal, regular people. I am always surprised about how many people use cocaine. I have done my share of pot and drinking and other stupid decisions, but cocaine I would not touch with a 100 foot pole. Mainly because of that Sweet Valley High book.

But really, no judgement just surprise. Sad.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:45     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Families will likely claim they were drugged and not doing drugs.


It could have been tweakers. You can't predict what they will do.


Tweakers are meth. ??
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:39     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:It seems dumb to call them "KC Chiefs fans" in every news article. Its not remotely relevant.


Honestly I think they keep mentioning KC Chiefs because of Taylor Swift. More views.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:37     Subject: Re:KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

I watched Nancy Grace’s program yesterday morning on this story & she was going all in…..placing blame on the friend who survived. (The friend who hosted the game at his house.)

She was painting him as a suspicious murderer in my opinion, because he didn’t notice his deceased friends in the backyard for two days.
And also because he didn’t respond to text messages for those two days either.

I have to disagree w/her.
I always believed that the four men partook in drugs together (in spite of their families denying it) + that the host passed out or went to sleep inside the house which is why he ultimately survived.
His body was never exposed to the elements outside.

The reason he didn’t respond to text messages could be that he was just passed out from all the drugs.
I don’t think it is unusual for a person to sleep for two days after ingesting a lot of drugs. 😕

I believe the three men who were found deceased outside had went outside to smoke pot or possibly a cigarette and they passed out from the amount of drugs in their systems.
Period.

Their own faults.
I doubt the man who survived actually murdered them.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:34     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should be clearer - these men were very likely poisoned by fentanyl. They did not knowingly take fentanyl.

This is happening in colleges and high schools across the country right now. A young person takes what they think is a legit pain killer or pill of ecstasy provided to them by a "friend" and they are accidentally poisoned with fentanyl.

There was a pretty well-know electronic music artist who died in LA a few weeks ago from accidental fentanyl poisoning. He, his wife, and one of his best friends were all found dead in their apartment:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/23/arts/music/soft-moon-silent-servant-found-dead.html

This isn't an "overdose." It's legit poisoning. And it's an epidemic right now.

Every parent of a teenage kid should have narcan at their home. Your kids should be sent off to college with narcan. They never know when they might need it for themselves, a roommate, or a random stranger.

If this homeowner had a supply of Narcan in his home, he likely would've been able to stop his own symptoms and save all his friends.


You don’t know jack


I'll eat my shorts if these guys willingly took fentanyl. They didn't.

Good article on likely what happened to these men: "Three New Yorkers Ordered Cocaine From the Same Delivery Service. All Died From Fentanyl."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fentanyl-cocaine-new-yorkers-drug-delivery-service-all-died-11666526726
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:30     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

Anonymous wrote:There are so many people on this board and in this society who won’t care about these deaths or others like them - taking drugs means you get what you get, they think, and you don’t have grounds to complain.

Having Narcan on hand is good, but a person rendered unconscious by opioids doesn’t have the capacity to rescue themselves with Narcan never mind their friends. This is why we need safe sites for drug use, but even if we had them people like these guys wouldn’t go. They should have had a designated friend on hand who wasn’t going to use and could be capable of rescuing or at least calling 911.



The worst part of this mindset is that it is often their kid or grandchild who experiments a few times and is accidentally poisoned by fentanyl. The kid took a black market Vicodin for legit pain or Ritalin to study for finals and they die while alone.

And while self-adminstration of Narcan is not foolproof, it's way more common than people realize or doctors will admit. No government agency or doctor will recommend you rely on self-administration, because you should have a sober monitoring the individuals. But how many people using drugs actually do that? Rarely.

The situation about fentanyl safety reminds me a lot of the uproar about schools providing condoms to kids back in the 90s and early 00s - "You're only encouraging bad behavior!" We want people to be safe and young people will continue to do risky things.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:03     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

There are so many people on this board and in this society who won’t care about these deaths or others like them - taking drugs means you get what you get, they think, and you don’t have grounds to complain.

Having Narcan on hand is good, but a person rendered unconscious by opioids doesn’t have the capacity to rescue themselves with Narcan never mind their friends. This is why we need safe sites for drug use, but even if we had them people like these guys wouldn’t go. They should have had a designated friend on hand who wasn’t going to use and could be capable of rescuing or at least calling 911.

Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 13:35     Subject: KC Chiefs fans - suspicious deaths...

We should be clearer - these men were very likely poisoned by fentanyl. They did not knowingly take fentanyl.

This is happening in colleges and high schools across the country right now. A young person takes what they think is a legit pain killer or pill of ecstasy provided to them by a "friend" and they are accidentally poisoned with fentanyl.

There was a pretty well-know electronic music artist who died in LA a few weeks ago from accidental fentanyl poisoning. He, his wife, and one of his best friends were all found dead in their apartment:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/23/arts/music/soft-moon-silent-servant-found-dead.html

This isn't an "overdose." It's legit poisoning. And it's an epidemic right now.

Every parent of a teenage kid should have narcan at their home. Your kids should be sent off to college with narcan. They never know when they might need it for themselves, a roommate, or a random stranger.

If this homeowner had a supply of Narcan in his home, he likely would've been able to stop his own symptoms and save all his friends.