Anonymous wrote:I just can't believe anyone really thinks about us at all! Who cares?

This! I don’t think about them, or the women who are big law partners, or the women who decide not to have kids, or the women who foster a million rescue dogs or whatever.

I work full time and I think hating on women who chose for whatever reason not to be in the workforce is a pitiful waste of time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think about them.

I do think about them once who are divorced or widowed because people make go fund me accounts and I think, nope.

But you do get to feel smug and superior so they are adding to your quality of life, right?

Neither smug nor superior.

Nope. I just am not giving them money because they refuse to work for money.

I don’t understand not working but begging for money. Get a job!

+1

Its a matter of resources. Your circle sounds poor. Any Gofundme requests I see are from poor women, not rich ones, no matter employed ones or SAHMs.

Except for Alyssa Milano

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/01/26/alyssa-milano-gofundme-son-baseball-team-response/72368501007/

And Mary Lou Retton

I know 5 UMC women who had to resort to go fund me due to divorce/sick H/becoming a widow

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll be honest since you requested it OP.

I have a low opinion of parents who do not even want to be the primary caregiver for their children when they are infants and toddlers. I think prioritizing material things and one's own career and self-fulfillment is selfish and indicates a lack of understanding of how important it is for young children to spend most of their time with someone who loves them completely and unconditionally.

A little off of your topic but completely relevant.

It is off topic but since you brought it up.

I think people who are the only caretaker for their children when they are infants and toddlers are doing their children a great disservice and if their H works more than 40 hours a week to do so also deny their children a full relationship with their own father.

What?

Anonymous wrote:I'll be honest since you requested it OP.

I have a low opinion of parents who do not even want to be the primary caregiver for their children when they are infants and toddlers. I think prioritizing material things and one's own career and self-fulfillment is selfish and indicates a lack of understanding of how important it is for young children to spend most of their time with someone who loves them completely and unconditionally.

A little off of your topic but completely relevant.

It is off topic but since you brought it up.

I think people who are the only caretaker for their children when they are infants and toddlers are doing their children a great disservice and if their H works more than 40 hours a week to do so also deny their children a full relationship with their own father.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless they perform at a very high level, most employees will be forgotten within a few years of leaving their job. The work will continue on with someone else at the desk.

I’ve worked and I’ve been a SAHM. My most important contribution to society is not how much money I made, how many papers I pushed, or how many public accolades I received, but how happy and well adjusted my family is.

Same when you empty nest.

If your children have forgotten you a few years after leaving for college/life, you have absolutely failed as a parent. Maybe you worked (outside the home) too much?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is so virtuous about earning a paycheck? And why is that just presumed to be a positive contribution to society?

These people are very shallow. It's not a contribution to society; it's only a contribution to themselves. Most people around here don't contribute anything. Not a park bench, nothing.

Including SAHM’s

I don't think about them.

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is so virtuous about earning a paycheck? And why is that just presumed to be a positive contribution to society?

These people are very shallow. It's not a contribution to society; it's only a contribution to themselves. Most people around here don't contribute anything. Not a park bench, nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll be honest since you requested it OP.

I have a low opinion of parents who do not even want to be the primary caregiver for their children when they are infants and toddlers. I think prioritizing material things and one's own career and self-fulfillment is selfish and indicates a lack of understanding of how important it is for young children to spend most of their time with someone who loves them completely and unconditionally.

A little off of your topic but completely relevant.

Your opinion clearly presumes that the parent has a choice not to work. What about the mother who works not because she prioritizes material things but because she needs to earn money to put food on the table and a roof over the kid's head? Is she selfish?

Must be difficult for you to understand the world outside of your bubble.

DP but her comment implied she knew that.

What exactly is so virtuous about earning a paycheck? And why is that just presumed to be a positive contribution to society?

Anonymous wrote:I'll be honest since you requested it OP.

I have a low opinion of parents who do not even want to be the primary caregiver for their children when they are infants and toddlers. I think prioritizing material things and one's own career and self-fulfillment is selfish and indicates a lack of understanding of how important it is for young children to spend most of their time with someone who loves them completely and unconditionally.

A little off of your topic but completely relevant.

Your opinion clearly presumes that the parent has a choice not to work. What about the mother who works not because she prioritizes material things but because she needs to earn money to put food on the table and a roof over the kid's head? Is she selfish?

Must be difficult for you to understand the world outside of your bubble.

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s great! Personally, I work ( one day on site) because my mental health stays better that way but running a household properly is no joke and hats off to women who do it 24x7. My mom has been a SAHM and growing up it was great to have a nice clean house, good meals and emotional support.

These tasks can be done my a man also but let’s face reality that most of the time women have better personalities to manage household, manage kids etc.

Give me good mothers and I will give you a great nation quote by Napoleon rings true even in this century.

In short, I think these women are awesome and doing a very noble task of raising a family, we see in our everyday lives how kids of absent parents behave and how much trouble they can get into.

lol, what? Nobody said every SAHM is a good mom.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think about them.

I do think about them once who are divorced or widowed because people make go fund me accounts and I think, nope.

But you do get to feel smug and superior so they are adding to your quality of life, right?

Neither smug nor superior.

Nope. I just am not giving them money because they refuse to work for money.

I don’t understand not working but begging for money. Get a job!

+1

Its a matter of resources. Your circle sounds poor. Any Gofundme requests I see are from poor women, not rich ones, no matter employed ones or SAHMs.

Except for Alyssa Milano

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/01/26/alyssa-milano-gofundme-son-baseball-team-response/72368501007/

And Mary Lou Retton

I know 5 UMC women who had to resort to go fund me due to divorce/sick H/becoming a widow

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know what their Plan B is when the kids leave for college or if a divorce happens.

Plan B: For college - enjoy the freedom of not being a cook, housekeeper, laundry, and personal driver. If divorce happens, my spouse knows I'll go after everything but I cannot imagine divorce happening. The bigger concern is death and we have a paid-off house, college fund, savings and I'd get social security. And, life insurance. I could pick up a basic job if I wanted/needed to and be just fine. Believe it or not, some plan for these things. Death worries me more. I hope to die first.

Sounds like my best friend, except it took him 10 years to die. It drained their finances. He was 40 when he got sick. Social security is decades away and not that much when someone only working until 40.

We have good health insurance so thankfully it would only be a drain for a nursing home and I'd never do that to my spouse if I could avoid it. Same with my spouse. We are older so it's not decades away and as a spouse, with kids, you get survivor's benefits. And, I'd get my husband's small pension on top of social security, plus life insurance. And, that's why we made sure to live within our means, save and do things like pay off the house.

Again you sound just like my best friend. People with early onset of dementia are violent. You wouldn’t do that to your kids. So yea, you’d put him in a home. Like she was forced to do.

Agains, she had all that. It’s not pretty though how quickly tfat all goes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You mean people like me, who are very well-read, can discuss most current events with intelligence and some background knowledge, and also earn significant passive income from my dividends?

I'm doing great, thank you. Feel free to think whatever you want about me.

That fact that you replied sort of indicates you care what people think.

I only judge those that do not contribute in any way to society - volunteer work, pta, kids activities, anything. If all they do is care for their kids, then I judge them as incredibly selfish and lazy.

And what if they're looking after a child with special needs? Or another relative? What if they themselves have a chronic illness and cannot work?
What if the special needs or illness in question is invisible to you?

Judging based on incomplete information is not wise, PP. You never know what's going on in people's lives. Have a little respect and humility.

🙄 that’s exactly what I was saying - they contribute NOTHING to society. Going down the tangent of disabilities for the parent is way off OP’s topic and you know it.

I’m talking about people who get the non special needs kids to school, hit the gym/spa/nail grab lunch with friends, pick up kids and drive them to activities. Then go home and do it all over the next day for 18 years. Then continue to do nothing outside of their own pleasures. Completely selfish.

How stupid do you have to be to write such a response… raising healthy families contributes to the collective good of society. Healthy families make a healthy, balanced, functional society.

We as a nation value don’t value families, as a result our country is headed down the drain. Mental health issues, obesity epidemic , emotional hangups, kids getting into trouble, drugs etc.

A parent at home, whether a mom or a dad is really important to make sure that the household is running smoothly and kids are staying on track. These days with the WFH trend a lot of parents are doing better in terms of home cooked meals, spending more time as a family, less stress and more exercise.

I wish we were a rich enough nation where one parent could stay home or we were rich enough that people didn’t have to work 2 jobs to put food on the table.