Anonymous
08/11/2025 07:07
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:It’s our skyrocketing chronic diseases that’s killing us. Other countries don’t have this.
Yep. Brought on by poor lifestyles. Americans have poor work-life balance, lots of stress, lack community etc., all which impact our health.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 01:07
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:It’s our skyrocketing chronic diseases that’s killing us. Other countries don’t have this.
Agreed. But I have to admit it's a lifestyle and culture deficit contributing to diseases killing us in the US in all likelihood don't you think? Insurance/healthcare system on top certainly makes things worse..
Anonymous
08/10/2025 07:47
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Almost a third (maybe quarter?) of Americans are on Medicaid and have a totally different experience, even having gender confirming healthcare fully covered. So we’re doing well in some ways.
I'm on Medicaid and love it. And I live where I can get the best (US) care possible. When I went to Ireland and England and got Covid, at first I couldn't even find a doctor (socialized medicine doesn't treat americans), and then when I finally did, they wouldn't give me any medicine
You’re on Medicaid but can afford international travel?
I think they must mean Medicare. It's unconscionable that people receive these insurances and have no idea what they are called, how they are funded and that they are GOVERNMENT. Medicare = Federal. Retired people. Pretty good. Medicaid = State run. It's for the very poor and for long term care (once you are impoverished). It's pretty terrible in terms of reimbursement rates, so lots of doctors won't take it and finding a dentist is nigh on impossible. All-Medicaid funding nursing homes are not ones you want to be in. Please, people. Educate yourselves. And like a PP said, it's all based on $$$. There are plenty of people who have become (fraudulent) millionaires by defrauding Medicare. Rick Scott, Senator from FL for one.
But the system IS what impoverishes seniors. If you can’t afford 10k/month to spend on a care facility (which most seniors can’t) then you have to lose everything — drain your bank accounts, sell your home, have nothing whatsoever to pass on to the next generation to get any care at all. You can have nothing leftover for your grandkid’s education, or for a down payment on a home, or just a bit of security.
The senior might not have been wealthy but they weren’t “destitute” until they encountered this system.
For the vast majority of American families, this is the real death tax.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 05:58
Subject: Re:Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:There have been a couple of comments asking if anyone actually knows someone who had gone bankrupt over healthcare costs.
I knew a couple (now both deceased) who had massive health care bills for the wife's cancer treatment. They were upper class and had insurance. I don't know the exact amount, but they owed something over $250,000. Due to their financial situation they were able to pay it over time without too much of an impact on their lifestyle, but for most people that would be extremely difficult or impossible.
It’s even worse now. Insurance providers now fund huge companies whose sole purpose is to deny care to policyholders.
So many people lose it all because of these insurance companies.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 01:15
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand these people who are also not willing to pay. If my child needed cancer treatment, yes I would be okay spending 100k or getting a second mortgage. This is an extreme example, but so many people are upset about paying 1k for services. Nothing is free in life.
I do think that hospital administration costs are out of control. Even my dentist has trouble with the administration costs of insurance.
LMAO. I work my butt off to pay 5 digit family insurance premiums every year. No, I am not “okay” with paying 100K for our child’s care On top of that. .
Anonymous
08/09/2025 23:20
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
It’s our skyrocketing chronic diseases that’s killing us. Other countries don’t have this.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 22:22
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
From an access and coverage perspective every other developed country from Cuba, Costa Rica, Mexico to Asia, W Europe and in between has better healthcare than the US. Unless you are stuck in Iraq and war torn places or a seriously backward country that has bigger probs, it will be better than the US,
Use logic.
The US is a capitalist society where healthcare is for profit. This means that if you have money, the US bar none will be best. Most advanced, best serviced, etc. but for the 96% mere mortals that aren't made of money, it will be a nightmare. Whether it's getting seen, insurance on the back end paperwork, competent healthcare providers or actual ability to afford and access meds, the US will suck depending on the seriousness of your illness : your ability to pay. It's a direct ratio. The worse you're sick and poor the worst your outcome.
Whereas everywhere else, you have at least even odds. In this country there are poor kids in Appalachia who will never have access to proper healthcare - throughout their lives. No dentist. No pediatrician. It's a sad country we live in unless you are independently wealthy whereas in every other country, even though you pay high taxes, you will have at minimum basic healthcare opportunities for wellness and accidents.
What we pay in fed, state, SS and health insurance, it equals if not exceeds the all in taxes all those socialist countries pay that so many Americans deride. Do the numbers. Esp if you have kids because only in the US are you not getting help by way of employment community and educational support. Our healthcare system is a disaster as we can't even get the foundation right.
Use logic.
The US is a capitalist society where healthcare is for profit. This means that if you have money, the US bar none will be best. Most advanced, best serviced, etc. but for the 96% mere mortals that aren't made of money, it will be a nightmare. Whether it's getting seen, insurance on the back end paperwork, competent healthcare providers or actual ability to afford and access meds, the US will suck depending on the seriousness of your illness : your ability to pay. It's a direct ratio. The worse you're sick and poor the worst your outcome.
Whereas everywhere else, you have at least even odds. In this country there are poor kids in Appalachia who will never have access to proper healthcare - throughout their lives. No dentist. No pediatrician. It's a sad country we live in unless you are independently wealthy whereas in every other country, even though you pay high taxes, you will have at minimum basic healthcare opportunities for wellness and accidents.
What we pay in fed, state, SS and health insurance, it equals if not exceeds the all in taxes all those socialist countries pay that so many Americans deride. Do the numbers. Esp if you have kids because only in the US are you not getting help by way of employment community and educational support. Our healthcare system is a disaster as we can't even get the foundation right.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 17:02
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the gazillions of dollars we have been forced to pay — only God knows how many — researchers, we are getting sicker and sicker, now the sickest in the world.
What the hell is going on?!?!??
Anyone?
Here's a different question: Which country has a healthcare industry that generates the largest number of millionaires? It the US by a mile. From the owners of a pediatric practice in Chevy Chase, to the C-suite at health insurance companies to the executives of the advertising for big Pharma, lots of folks are making big money in a way that other countries can only dream of.
True, SOME physicians make big money — but they also spend big money and take out big loans during the course of their training. Is that true — or as true — for people in other countries? Many people would be happy with lower salaries if they had more benefits and safety nets for themselves and for their children. So, while it might be nice to be a millionaire, the comparisons may be with people whose kids will pay exponentially less for education, for example.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 15:12
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Almost a third (maybe quarter?) of Americans are on Medicaid and have a totally different experience, even having gender confirming healthcare fully covered. So we’re doing well in some ways.
I'm on Medicaid and love it. And I live where I can get the best (US) care possible. When I went to Ireland and England and got Covid, at first I couldn't even find a doctor (socialized medicine doesn't treat americans), and then when I finally did, they wouldn't give me any medicine
You’re on Medicaid but can afford international travel?
I think they must mean Medicare. It's unconscionable that people receive these insurances and have no idea what they are called, how they are funded and that they are GOVERNMENT. Medicare = Federal. Retired people. Pretty good. Medicaid = State run. It's for the very poor and for long term care (once you are impoverished). It's pretty terrible in terms of reimbursement rates, so lots of doctors won't take it and finding a dentist is nigh on impossible. All-Medicaid funding nursing homes are not ones you want to be in. Please, people. Educate yourselves. And like a PP said, it's all based on $$$. There are plenty of people who have become (fraudulent) millionaires by defrauding Medicare. Rick Scott, Senator from FL for one.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:36
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the gazillions of dollars we have been forced to pay — only God knows how many — researchers, we are getting sicker and sicker, now the sickest in the world.
What the hell is going on?!?!??
Anyone?
Here's a different question: Which country has a healthcare industry that generates the largest number of millionaires? It the US by a mile. From the owners of a pediatric practice in Chevy Chase, to the C-suite at health insurance companies to the executives of the advertising for big Pharma, lots of folks are making big money in a way that other countries can only dream of.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:19
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:No other country allows big pharma to control virtually the entire medical system the way we do.
We spend the most, but still have the absolute worst health. We have sick care, not health care.
Pharma is out of control.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:18
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Anonymous wrote:With all the gazillions of dollars we have been forced to pay — only God knows how many — researchers, we are getting sicker and sicker, now the sickest in the world.
What the hell is going on?!?!??
Anyone?
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:16
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
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Wait times and shortages are also particularly bad in Canada for women’s health/ob gyn services.
Anonymous wrote:I would give Canada’s health care system a 4/10. There is an absence of family doctors / primary care, wait times for specialists can be years, wait time for scans and imaging can be months, preventative care is almost non existent, and many things aren’t covered by the health care plans so there is still a lot of money spent out of pocket. Some have additional coverage through their workplaces but not everyone has that.
I have lived in other countries (NZ, Middle East) and they had far better two tier systems.
Wait times and shortages are also particularly bad in Canada for women’s health/ob gyn services.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:13
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
I would give Canada’s health care system a 4/10. There is an absence of family doctors / primary care, wait times for specialists can be years, wait time for scans and imaging can be months, preventative care is almost non existent, and many things aren’t covered by the health care plans so there is still a lot of money spent out of pocket. Some have additional coverage through their workplaces but not everyone has that.
I have lived in other countries (NZ, Middle East) and they had far better two tier systems.
I have lived in other countries (NZ, Middle East) and they had far better two tier systems.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 14:00
Subject: Which country actually has the best healthcare system?
Taiwan but it’s a small country. It’s also starting to encounter more problems related to an aging population.