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Anonymous wrote:I did change my legal name and I think it's more that I never, ever have to explain that I'm related to my kids or my husband and there are small conveniences related to that. It's obvious to everyone at schools and camps, I can grab my husband's library books,

I have always thought that your last name is a shorthand indicator that explains who you are related to. To me, it made sense to highlight my adult nuclear family. The only time I ever missed legally having my maiden name was after my father passed away, and I had to explain our relationship to the hospital/funeral home etc.

OP here. I mean, totally fine -- but know I never have had to do explain or do anything like this either. ANd it sounds like with very minor exceptions over the years, others who still have their original name haven't eiter.

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Anonymous wrote:To the women who think that if you don't change your name, or have the same last name as a family -- that you will encounter major logistical hassles, etc. - do you have any evidence to support this?

I have traveled A LOT with my kids, having lived overseas most of their lives, and have literally never had a bureaucratic or logitical issue. I can't recall any time I've literally ever had an issue (other than people calling me Mrs Kidslastname, which I don't care about) at all in fact. I have three teenagers and a younger child, and have traveled a LOT overseas, so have had ample oppotunities.

NOOOOOOO!!! Don’t change your name ladies. I changed it and it’s a PAIN in the ass and causes complications for years whether it’s all your pre marriage frequent flyer miles or pre marriage work history or whatever and it’s just silly. No one gives a crap!!!

What the "ladies" who are changing their names are saying, though, is that something big and terrible could happen if they don't have the same last name as their kids or husband, because people won't believe they are a family

I changed my name upon marriage because I wanted a fresh start in life. Changing my last name and staying off of social media helped me ditch people from my past and gave me a new identity, in a sense.

You’re still the same person. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:To the women who think that if you don't change your name, or have the same last name as a family -- that you will encounter major logistical hassles, etc. - do you have any evidence to support this?

I have traveled A LOT with my kids, having lived overseas most of their lives, and have literally never had a bureaucratic or logitical issue. I can't recall any time I've literally ever had an issue (other than people calling me Mrs Kidslastname, which I don't care about) at all in fact. I have three teenagers and a younger child, and have traveled a LOT overseas, so have had ample oppotunities.

NOOOOOOO!!! Don’t change your name ladies. I changed it and it’s a PAIN in the ass and causes complications for years whether it’s all your pre marriage frequent flyer miles or pre marriage work history or whatever and it’s just silly. No one gives a crap!!!

What the "ladies" who are changing their names are saying, though, is that something big and terrible could happen if they don't have the same last name as their kids or husband, because people won't believe they are a family

I changed my name upon marriage because I wanted a fresh start in life. Changing my last name and staying off of social media helped me ditch people from my past and gave me a new identity, in a sense.

Anonymous wrote:I was married 5 years without changing my name and then decided to change it because o was pregnant and was about to get my professional license and it seemed like if I ever wanted to change it that was the time. I did run into some minor issues with different last name even before having kids and I’m glad I changed it-I like having the same last name as my kids. To each their own!

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Anonymous wrote:I've been married 25+ years, never changed my name and our kids have hyphenated names. In all that time, in all the travels, schools, places we've been, there's only been 1 time I experienced any difficulty - getting a pool pass at the condo my DH owned and where we lived.

The pool at the condo had opened and, while on maternity leave, walked to the condo office with our 3 year, 18 month old and 2 month old (who was in a sling) to get our pool passes. They asked to see my drivers' license and I showed them. It had the address of the condo on it. They noted my last name was not the same as DH's who was listed as the owner. I acknowledged that. They pointed out that I wasn't wearing a wedding ring. I acknowledged that, too. They then asked how they were supposed to know we were actually married. I looked at the three kids, looked back at the person and said, 'Really? I'm 40 years old with 3 kids. What are the chances of me trying to scam you for pool passes? You want me to show you my marriage license? Even the IRS didn't ask for it when we filed our first joint return." I got the pool passes. <smh>

This is sooo stupid, and the height of selfish / ridiculous self-importance. What if everyone did this? What last name are your kids supposed to give THEIR kids? What if they marry someone whose parents were equally self-indulgent?

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my name so that we all have the same name. It’s not due to serious logistical concerns, but to avoid the endless, minor corrections and clarifications throughout school and daycare years. I have a common first name with multiple common spellings and slight variations in pronunciation. I constantly have to say things like “yes, with an h” or clarify short or long vowel. I have been answering these questions for 40+ years. I married into a 12 letter, but thankfully phonetic, last name. I just could not bear dealing with my own first name, spelling out my husband/children’s name, AND explaining my name is different or hyphenated.

I know who I am and it doesn’t make me less of a feminist because I want my life to be simple.

totally your right and okay, we can accept this.
but again, you have the sense that you would need to do the endless converations -- but we are all telling you wouldnt

But I am telling you I already have these conversations regularly and don’t want to invite more. And I know I am right because I know several women through my kids and I observe them have these discussions with the school secretary, each new coach or activity lead after school, when extended day gets a new employee, etc. Why can’t you believe other people’s experiences are different than yours? If people I know have to talk about their name with a soccer coach or camp counselor regularly in NoVa, I can’t even imagine what a pain it would be in my rural, conservative hometown.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my name so that we all have the same name. It’s not due to serious logistical concerns, but to avoid the endless, minor corrections and clarifications throughout school and daycare years. I have a common first name with multiple common spellings and slight variations in pronunciation. I constantly have to say things like “yes, with an h” or clarify short or long vowel. I have been answering these questions for 40+ years. I married into a 12 letter, but thankfully phonetic, last name. I just could not bear dealing with my own first name, spelling out my husband/children’s name, AND explaining my name is different or hyphenated.

I know who I am and it doesn’t make me less of a feminist because I want my life to be simple.

totally your right and okay, we can accept this.
but again, you have the sense that you would need to do the endless converations -- but we are all telling you wouldnt

But I am telling you I already have these conversations regularly and don’t want to invite more. And I know I am right because I know several women through my kids and I observe them have these discussions with the school secretary, each new coach or activity lead after school, when extended day gets a new employee, etc. Why can’t you believe other people’s experiences are different than yours? If people I know have to talk about their name with a soccer coach or camp counselor regularly in NoVa, I can’t even imagine what a pain it would be in my rural, conservative hometown.

Anonymous wrote:OP, no one is saying they *had* to change their last name for logistical reasons. People just listed the reasons that they wanted to.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my name so that we all have the same name. It’s not due to serious logistical concerns, but to avoid the endless, minor corrections and clarifications throughout school and daycare years. I have a common first name with multiple common spellings and slight variations in pronunciation. I constantly have to say things like “yes, with an h” or clarify short or long vowel. I have been answering these questions for 40+ years. I married into a 12 letter, but thankfully phonetic, last name. I just could not bear dealing with my own first name, spelling out my husband/children’s name, AND explaining my name is different or hyphenated.

I know who I am and it doesn’t make me less of a feminist because I want my life to be simple.

totally your right and okay, we can accept this.
but again, you have the sense that you would need to do the endless converations -- but we are all telling you wouldnt

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing most of the people who have never had an issue are the same race as their husbands and kids.

I am a different race than my White husband. My kids are mixed, but look White. Having the same last name has saved me a ton of hassle in foreign countries, where I already get asked about my relationship to my own children.

For those women who think it's anti-feminist or whatever for me to change my name, maybe you should think about what it's like to not be White or to be in a mixed race marriage or to have chidlren who don't look like you before you pass judgment.

DH and I are different races. I have not changed my name. Never experienced what you are taking about. It’s not about race, don’t make it.

Maybe not for you, but clearly for us. Sorry to burst your bubble, but sometimes it is about race. We spend a lot of vacations visiting family in the Middle East and North Africa where race has been a big issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing most of the people who have never had an issue are the same race as their husbands and kids.

I am a different race than my White husband. My kids are mixed, but look White. Having the same last name has saved me a ton of hassle in foreign countries, where I already get asked about my relationship to my own children.

For those women who think it's anti-feminist or whatever for me to change my name, maybe you should think about what it's like to not be White or to be in a mixed race marriage or to have chidlren who don't look like you before you pass judgment.

I posted earlier about the the only issue different names caused me was getting pool passes. My DH and I are of different races. I am white, our kids are mixed and look like their father.

I feel compelled to point out that being a 'feminist' is about choices. What name you use, what names your kids have should be a choice. What I find to be anti-feminist is the expectation that kids would only have their father's name, not if a woman changes her name upon marriage.

DP and moreover it's the expectation that the WOMAN changes her name. It's always so interesting how extremely rare it is to hear men say, I want to change my name to my wife's so that we all have the same last name. Or, I don't feel any ties to my last name so I decided to change it to hers. Or, my name is so hard to spell and pronounced I thought it would simplify things to take my wife's. All valid reasons. Why don't men take up the cause?

Maybe instead of making this a woman thing we need to start promoting the idea that MEN can change their names, too, and should more often think about it if it's important to a couple/family to have one last name. Make it a discussion between couples as to which one will change their name. Don't assume it has to be the woman. Toss a coin if you can't decide, and stick with the decision. When we get to the point where 50% of name changers are men, then it will seem like the patriarchy is no longer in play with this issue.

So men, step up! This is on you!