Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Yes. It was declared eradicated in United States by the WHO back in 2000. Not sure it can “come back” after being eradicated. They probably mean hand and foot and mouth disease which is similar

Have you heard of other countries? And airplanes?

Plus anti-vaxers. Measles vaxes work best when there is herd-immunity. You need 95%+ of the population to be vaxed for that. Once people stopped vaxing it is much easier for cases to pop up. And yeah much of the times we get clusters they are result of travel to a country where measles is not irradicated.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

If you fly with an unvaccinated infant you are a moron.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

Please. Most parents here don’t even want their in-laws around their unvaccinated infant. Forget flying to some place where measles is rampant.

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Because some anti-vexers stopped vaxing. Measles vaccines work well but they work best when everyone is vaccinated---herd Immunity. That way the under 1 yo who are not vaccinated are still protected. Look at places like India---they had measles much longer than the USA did because it's difficult to irradicate a disease without 98/99% of population vaxed.

It started coming back in 1989---spring break timeframe and it spread on college campuses. Then they realized that A) many college aged kids had been given vaccines that did not hold up and B) many had only gotten 1 shot and not the followups.

Now, medical staff are starting to realize that the vaccine wanes over time. So if your last MMR was when you were 11/12 and you are over 40, you may not have immunity.

I know---I was in college spring 1989 at one of the first colleges to have a measles outbreak (patient 0 lived in my dorm and was in 2 of my classes)---we had mass vaccination campaign for everyone on campus, but especially those in my dorm and in classes with the cases.

I also know because my community had an outbreak (thanks to anti-vaxers in our state about 3 hours from us---case originated there) at our HS. First case was an adult in their 50s, fully vaxed whose immunity had obviously waned. Had 5 days off school while they cleaned the school and had every staff member in the entire school district have to get a new MMR shot or get their titers checked and prove they had protection. We ended up with over 10 cases of the measles in the community that I know of.

My family got their titers checked to ensure we were protected. Quite frankly, if I were over 40 I'd get an updated MMR or get the titers checked to make sure I had protection.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

They did. Did you even read the article? Your summary is not correct.

Both the day care and the parent had been asked to observe quarantine orders, did not, and then did not share that information," Bettigole said.

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Then the daycare should have asked them to leave.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Philly isn't too far. Should Measles be in DC by now?????????????????????????????????

Relax.

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

They did. Did you even read the article? Your summary is not correct.

Both the day care and the parent had been asked to observe quarantine orders, did not, and then did not share that information," Bettigole said.

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Philly isn't too far. Should Measles be in DC by now?????????????????????????????????