Don’t for a second think the Russians and Putin do not have anything to do with this travesty. They would like nothing more than to embarrass the President by moving our teams out of the District.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a done deal

If true, this is really going to put pressure on DC’s leaders to get the Commanders back in the city despite most residents opposing it.

But how will feral DC youth attend Caps/Wizards games if they have to go all the way to Virginia? What about equity?!

https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2023/12/12/potomac-yard-leonsis-youngkin-arena.html

And just yesterday people on this board were telling me this was all a negotiating ploy and no move was going to happen...

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.

So it only makes sense for everyone to suffer, because equity?! Why?

See how much the fan base drops when you move the team to Virginia. As an example, look at what happened to the "DC" NFL team. Within 5 years, Dan Snyder not withstanding, fan interest and attendance at Raljon, fell off the cliff.

That's all you got? Oh well. If you think Marylanders in mass are going to make this stand then more power to you. But literally, it's probably just as easy to get to Potomac Yard from MoCo (you can take AL bridge to parkway or 495 all the way around to route 1 or telegraph) then it is to literally drive through all of DC to get to Judiciary Square/Chinatown. Potomac Yard and Cap One arena are about 3 miles apart. You pitching a fit over 3 miles, then stay home.

Why? The value propostion between a football team and stadium and hickey/basketball/concerts are completely different.

The mayor has literally dropped the ball on this. Compensating for a worse deal for football will just compound the problem.

Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a done deal

If true, this is really going to put pressure on DC’s leaders to get the Commanders back in the city despite most residents opposing it.

I guess it is a done deal

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.

So it only makes sense for everyone to suffer, because equity?! Why?

See how much the fan base drops when you move the team to Virginia. As an example, look at what happened to the "DC" NFL team. Within 5 years, Dan Snyder not withstanding, fan interest and attendance at Raljon, fell off the cliff.

Within five years of FedEx opening (2002) the Redskins grew to become the #1 most valuable sports franchise in the world, at that time they had the highest attendance in the NFL. I guess if you are going to make an incorrect statement you might as well be completely wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.

So it only makes sense for everyone to suffer, because equity?! Why?

See how much the fan base drops when you move the team to Virginia. As an example, look at what happened to the "DC" NFL team. Within 5 years, Dan Snyder not withstanding, fan interest and attendance at Raljon, fell off the cliff.

The DC NFL team isn't in Virginia and fan interest remained strong until Snyder did his best to destroy it. Even that took a decade. The majority of the Capitals season ticket holders live in Virginia. Maybe the calculation is that, even if the lose MoCo fans, they will pick up more Virginia fans who don't want to deal with living in the city? Right now Virginia is the largest state without a professional sports team. Perhaps it makes more sense than Maryland (which has 3) or DC (which currently has 3). Even if you just look at Nova vs. DC or MoCo/PG- Nova has 3 million, DC has 675k, and PG + MoCo is 2 million

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.

So it only makes sense for everyone to suffer, because equity?! Why?

See how much the fan base drops when you move the team to Virginia. As an example, look at what happened to the "DC" NFL team. Within 5 years, Dan Snyder not withstanding, fan interest and attendance at Raljon, fell off the cliff.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.

So it only makes sense for everyone to suffer, because equity?! Why?

Wizards and Caps don't want their fans carjacked or robbed for their coats, etc. Makes perfect sense. Hope VA puts up border checkpoints to keep the rabble from DC out.

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Anonymous wrote:Awesome! I would finally go. People in this thread must all live in Maryland. Guess what, Virginia exists too!

VA residents have been attending Caps and Wizards games for decades. Sorry. The only people losing if the move were to happen will be MD residents.

Everyone loses. DC gets more crime and more blight in Chinatown. VA gets more traffic and crime in Potomac Yard while VA taxpayers get hosed paying for a percentage of the new arena's construction. MD has to deal with longer and more inconvenient trips to Caps games, Wizards games, and other events.

Actually, MD ends up losing the least.

So why is everyone vying for the arena??

So far, it is only Virginia because the team ownership is asking DC to chip in a half billion dollars for an upgrade. The arena is only 25 years old and they have done three city funded upgrades in the last 8 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Awesome! I would finally go. People in this thread must all live in Maryland. Guess what, Virginia exists too!

VA residents have been attending Caps and Wizards games for decades. Sorry. The only people losing if the move were to happen will be MD residents.

Everyone loses. DC gets more crime and more blight in Chinatown. VA gets more traffic and crime in Potomac Yard while VA taxpayers get hosed paying for a percentage of the new arena's construction. MD has to deal with longer and more inconvenient trips to Caps games, Wizards games, and other events.

Actually, MD ends up losing the least.

So why is everyone vying for the arena??

Politicians love white elephants

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Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??

Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.

When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?

Those plates are from just over the river PG County. That is different than the people who generally are going to Caps games.

So people from PG County don't count? Why? Lovely sentiment.

I guess all the Moco people who think their $hit don't stink will have to die mad if the caps move like 3 miles away. Y'all are ridiculous.

No, it is about geography. PG county is closer to Potomac Yards than parts of Fairfax. But neither are convenient for people who live in the northern and western suburbs of both VA and MD. That is why it makes sense to keep the teams and venue in town, so everyone has about the same travel to get to it.

Stop ascribing motive to other people's words.