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Post 11/19/2024 23:17     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the live score updates are posted for the Herndon All-Star tournament?


https://prod-cms-files.demosphere-secure.com/_deimos/_public_files/0d72wiascubql/recreation/all-star-cup-tournament/All-Star-Game-Scores-2.pdf?CacheKey=1731787580


How can you see the results of Sundays games and the championships? Thanks


FPYC and Valor were much better about giving score updates.


Does anyone have the score updated results? Usually there is a live results page for these tournaments, but Herndon just has an incomplete pdf with Day 1 results only.


I think they plan to post final results by November 2025.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:00     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.


If I'm not mistaken, referees were not to check rosters. Any roster issues where to be brought up by the coach with the site coordinator.


Noted on the referees, but when the same player played for both teams in the match surely the referees could have noticed.



I dont understand. Team A vs Team B and the same kid played for both teams?


Yes, and so there were kids that actually played for the rec programs in the fall selected for the teams sitting on the bench while this kid is playing the entire game one half for each team so it's not a situation where neither team could field a full lineup. One of the club's board members is one of the coaches, too. Absolutely embarrassing.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 19:03     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.


If I'm not mistaken, referees were not to check rosters. Any roster issues where to be brought up by the coach with the site coordinator.


Noted on the referees, but when the same player played for both teams in the match surely the referees could have noticed.



I dont understand. Team A vs Team B and the same kid played for both teams?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 19:02     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the live score updates are posted for the Herndon All-Star tournament?


https://prod-cms-files.demosphere-secure.com/_deimos/_public_files/0d72wiascubql/recreation/all-star-cup-tournament/All-Star-Game-Scores-2.pdf?CacheKey=1731787580


How can you see the results of Sundays games and the championships? Thanks


FPYC and Valor were much better about giving score updates.


Thats because there were barely any teams in the Valor tournament.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 16:30     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the live score updates are posted for the Herndon All-Star tournament?


https://prod-cms-files.demosphere-secure.com/_deimos/_public_files/0d72wiascubql/recreation/all-star-cup-tournament/All-Star-Game-Scores-2.pdf?CacheKey=1731787580


How can you see the results of Sundays games and the championships? Thanks


FPYC and Valor were much better about giving score updates.


Does anyone have the score updated results? Usually there is a live results page for these tournaments, but Herndon just has an incomplete pdf with Day 1 results only.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 14:52     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.


If I'm not mistaken, referees were not to check rosters. Any roster issues where to be brought up by the coach with the site coordinator.


Noted on the referees, but when the same player played for both teams in the match surely the referees could have noticed.


Why didn't the coach go talk to the site coordinator? Why would you expect the referee to do something about it when it's not his job? Referee's job is to referee the players on the field, not question eligibility of players.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 14:34     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.


If I'm not mistaken, referees were not to check rosters. Any roster issues where to be brought up by the coach with the site coordinator.


Noted on the referees, but when the same player played for both teams in the match surely the referees could have noticed.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 14:32     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.


If I'm not mistaken, referees were not to check rosters. Any roster issues where to be brought up by the coach with the site coordinator.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 13:02     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

Yep and got a note at 11:30pm about an 8am game Sunday.

Also, unrostered player playing -- so obvious and referee didn't even question it.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 12:53     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the live score updates are posted for the Herndon All-Star tournament?


https://prod-cms-files.demosphere-secure.com/_deimos/_public_files/0d72wiascubql/recreation/all-star-cup-tournament/All-Star-Game-Scores-2.pdf?CacheKey=1731787580


How can you see the results of Sundays games and the championships? Thanks


FPYC and Valor were much better about giving score updates.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 12:27     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the live score updates are posted for the Herndon All-Star tournament?


https://prod-cms-files.demosphere-secure.com/_deimos/_public_files/0d72wiascubql/recreation/all-star-cup-tournament/All-Star-Game-Scores-2.pdf?CacheKey=1731787580


How can you see the results of Sundays games and the championships? Thanks
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 12:05     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

The Herndon Cup and the FPYC tournaments are two of the best rec tournaments hands down. Long history and very well run. Whoever started this thread (looks like it was started last year) should admit that. Does not look like any complaints this year so far. Last year must have been a bad apple or two trying to trash a good org.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 08:21     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

Agree, tournament was very well organized and I appreciated getting the Sunday schedules much earlier than previous seasons. Good job Herndon!
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2024 08:07     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

My dc has only played in two tournaments: this one and a Valor tournament in spring. I went in with very low expectations based on the spring experience.

This herndon tournament was SO much better then the crappy Valor one. Kudos to the Herndon volunteers who pulled this together.
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Post 11/18/2024 07:18     Subject: The Herndon Cup was an absolute embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, the Loudoun model does suck, regardless of how it benefits it kids. The effectively play in NWSL and definitely do not play in the SFL, but Herndon will never do anything about that.

It was sort of telling when one Loudoun father was filming clips for his DD on the iPad....just a rec player, ok.


Didn't Loudoun play in FPYC and Valor (which is Chantilly's travel team) Rec tournaments also in recent seasons?
Obviously, no one has a problem with Loudoun playing in tournaments except for some Not Winning Sore Losers. The problem with Chantilly is that they do not have good coaching. Just some talentless yeller coaches who will never get their players to make a high school team.

Also, what is the big deal about a parent filming their kids game? I've been filming my son's games since he was 5 years old playing T-ball. Ha! Is that such a crime?


What happened with filming? You got harassed? I have never heard of filming not allowed.


Not Herndon Cup, but I've had rec parents from CYA's rec team (13G Weber) threaten to call the cops on me multiple occasions for filming my own daughter's match. They'd send parents, coach, and CYA staff to demand that I stop filming.


That's crazy. Been a "soccer parent" for over 10 years and I always try to film or photograph highlights from my kids' games, both rec and travel. Never heard of this.


When a PP mentioned CYA 13G I thought of some of the parents whose kids are likely on that team. I deal with them in other sports and activities. Not too surprised to hear that they're freaking out about some thing or another.


Basketball too?

I know this team, too, they all stick together for everything - multiple sports and all in the same class.


They are an entrenched CYA team that games the system. Coaches privileges on this one.


A girls team? Really? How do they "game the system"?


Wasn’t this the team that tried to get another team disqualified that beat them last year in the Herndon All-stars.


CYA doesn't play entire teams in All Stars, they make All Star teams out of coaches kids.


I think the coach of this particular all star team was also the age group coordinator. So who knows how that actually worked out. Based on personal experience in a different setting the guy is a jackass.


Yeah that’s a 100% true. He’s a piece work for sure.