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Anonymous wrote:Yes, because I can both have a drink and be a responsible parent. Are we doing shots? No. Are we getting drunk? Also no.

I don't drink very often (maybe once a month?) but Halloween is a social activity in our neighborhood and we will often drink while out with the kids.

Some people in the thread have talked about doing shots, or giving away shots as a "treat" to other parents.

Anonymous wrote:No. But many parents do in our neighborhood. My husband and I find it very odd. But, we don’t come from a culture where you would ever drink at a kid event. And I don’t mean we are not from the US. I just mean we were raised in the south by people that did not think a kid bday party, Halloween, etc was supposed to be a fun adult event.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

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You sound insufferable and judgmental. Glad you're so perfect.

Read the responses on this thread. There is a reason people are judgmental about it. Some parents turn Halloween, a children's event that often takes place on a weeknight, into an excuse to get trashed with their friends. It's weird. There's nothing wrong with drinking but this need some parents have to turn kid-centric events into an excuse to get drunk is a sign of a drinking problem. Sorry if that hits close to home for you.

I honestly think this attitude is part of why parenting in the U.S. is so much harder than it is in some other countries. We are slaves to our children and feel guilty when we don’t make things entirely about them. I legitimately don’t think it’s healthy for kids to live and see their parents living this way. It’s not really about alcohol but more about the idea that if you don’t make holidays and vacations entirely about children you’re a selfish, bad parent.

Have any of you ever spent Christmas in the UK? The whole season has more of a festive vibe because adults are allowed to enjoy it, go to pubs with friends, have parties and enjoy activities too. The season isn’t 100% about Santa and Christmas morning with children.

I say all this as a parent who only socially drinks sometimes. But I think it’s important to include kids in our real lives and not be so weird and puritanical about alcohol. Drinking does not have to mean getting drunk.

I actually think the focus on alcohol for parents on Halloween is a symptom of our weird relationship with parenting and alcohol, not a break from it. Like only in the US would you have a whole thread dedicated to asking parents if they planned to drink alcohol while trick or treating. Or making a big deal about how the parents "let loose" on Halloween since they aren't allowed to other times.

It's that juxtaposition specifically that is unhealthy. In countries where parents are not required to sacrifice every ounce of their being at the altar of parenting, people also don't make such a big deal about something like drinking at a holiday party. I agree with you that Americans are too extreme about their expectations of parents, but I also think running around doing jello shots during trick or treating is the extreme counter-reaction. A more moderate approach on both ends would be healthier for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

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You sound insufferable and judgmental. Glad you're so perfect.

Read the responses on this thread. There is a reason people are judgmental about it. Some parents turn Halloween, a children's event that often takes place on a weeknight, into an excuse to get trashed with their friends. It's weird. There's nothing wrong with drinking but this need some parents have to turn kid-centric events into an excuse to get drunk is a sign of a drinking problem. Sorry if that hits close to home for you.

I honestly think this attitude is part of why parenting in the U.S. is so much harder than it is in some other countries. We are slaves to our children and feel guilty when we don’t make things entirely about them. I legitimately don’t think it’s healthy for kids to live and see their parents living this way. It’s not really about alcohol but more about the idea that if you don’t make holidays and vacations entirely about children you’re a selfish, bad parent.

Have any of you ever spent Christmas in the UK? The whole season has more of a festive vibe because adults are allowed to enjoy it, go to pubs with friends, have parties and enjoy activities too. The season isn’t 100% about Santa and Christmas morning with children.

I say all this as a parent who only socially drinks sometimes. But I think it’s important to include kids in our real lives and not be so weird and puritanical about alcohol. Drinking does not have to mean getting drunk.

I actually think the focus on alcohol for parents on Halloween is a symptom of our weird relationship with parenting and alcohol, not a break from it. Like only in the US would you have a whole thread dedicated to asking parents if they planned to drink alcohol while trick or treating. Or making a big deal about how the parents "let loose" on Halloween since they aren't allowed to other times.

It's that juxtaposition specifically that is unhealthy. In countries where parents are not required to sacrifice every ounce of their being at the altar of parenting, people also don't make such a big deal about something like drinking at a holiday party. I agree with you that Americans are too extreme about their expectations of parents, but I also think running around doing jello shots during trick or treating is the extreme counter-reaction. A more moderate approach on both ends would be healthier for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

Because whether you have a glass of wine during the event or immediately after is the SAME THING.

I mean, this is not correct.

I sometimes have a glass of wine when I get home from work. This is not the same thing as having a glass of wine at my desk at work.

But you still have to parent after trick or treating.

Not really. Once my kids are in bed, my parenting duties are pretty minimal. Certainly more minimal than they are while out trick or treating.

Not really. There could still be an emergency. Sickness. A fire. Some reason you’d need to drive. My point is that a drink or two over the course of an evening does not impair most adults to the point where they cannot perform basic parenting tasks. Including while walking around outside.

My kids are much safer at home in their beds than running around the neighborhood at night. Plus the sort of emergency that is likely to come up at night when my kid is in bed is not likely to require the same reflexes and thinking as, say, my kid dashing into the street to say hi to a friend without checking for traffic.

But really, I just don't want to walk around drinking. To me that's a sitting activity. I also have never understood bar crawls or the desire to carry a beer around the French quarter.

Walking and drinking is for hobos.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

Because whether you have a glass of wine during the event or immediately after is the SAME THING.

I mean, this is not correct.

I sometimes have a glass of wine when I get home from work. This is not the same thing as having a glass of wine at my desk at work.

But you still have to parent after trick or treating.

Not really. Once my kids are in bed, my parenting duties are pretty minimal. Certainly more minimal than they are while out trick or treating.

Not really. There could still be an emergency. Sickness. A fire. Some reason you’d need to drive. My point is that a drink or two over the course of an evening does not impair most adults to the point where they cannot perform basic parenting tasks. Including while walking around outside.

My kids are much safer at home in their beds than running around the neighborhood at night. Plus the sort of emergency that is likely to come up at night when my kid is in bed is not likely to require the same reflexes and thinking as, say, my kid dashing into the street to say hi to a friend without checking for traffic.

But really, I just don't want to walk around drinking. To me that's a sitting activity. I also have never understood bar crawls or the desire to carry a beer around the French quarter.

Walking and drinking is for hobos.

God I love how this forum gives you insight to the wild wild landscapes of other peoples minds. It is just WILD up in there lol.

Anonymous wrote:No, I don't need a drink that badly, or to turn every kids' event into a parent party. Sitting around a firepit on any other cool fall night, sure.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

Because whether you have a glass of wine during the event or immediately after is the SAME THING.

I mean, this is not correct.

I sometimes have a glass of wine when I get home from work. This is not the same thing as having a glass of wine at my desk at work.

But you still have to parent after trick or treating.

Not really. Once my kids are in bed, my parenting duties are pretty minimal. Certainly more minimal than they are while out trick or treating.

Not really. There could still be an emergency. Sickness. A fire. Some reason you’d need to drive. My point is that a drink or two over the course of an evening does not impair most adults to the point where they cannot perform basic parenting tasks. Including while walking around outside.

My kids are much safer at home in their beds than running around the neighborhood at night. Plus the sort of emergency that is likely to come up at night when my kid is in bed is not likely to require the same reflexes and thinking as, say, my kid dashing into the street to say hi to a friend without checking for traffic.

But really, I just don't want to walk around drinking. To me that's a sitting activity. I also have never understood bar crawls or the desire to carry a beer around the French quarter.

Walking and drinking is for hobos.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, because I can both have a drink and be a responsible parent. Are we doing shots? No. Are we getting drunk? Also no.

I don't drink very often (maybe once a month?) but Halloween is a social activity in our neighborhood and we will often drink while out with the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

Because whether you have a glass of wine during the event or immediately after is the SAME THING.

I mean, this is not correct.

I sometimes have a glass of wine when I get home from work. This is not the same thing as having a glass of wine at my desk at work.

But you still have to parent after trick or treating.

Not really. Once my kids are in bed, my parenting duties are pretty minimal. Certainly more minimal than they are while out trick or treating.

Not really. There could still be an emergency. Sickness. A fire. Some reason you’d need to drive. My point is that a drink or two over the course of an evening does not impair most adults to the point where they cannot perform basic parenting tasks. Including while walking around outside.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm not an alcoholic though.

What's it like in your black and white world?

It's great. I am capable of spending an hour walking my kid around the neighborhood and then enjoying a glass of wine at home, without needing to carry a little "mommy juice" around with me while I make a nice memory with my kid.

I'm sorry that you can't do normal parenting activities without alcohol. That sounds difficult.

So your kids are so awful that you need to find solace in a glass of wine at the end of the night after spending an hour with them? I am sorry you are such a bad parent that you can't take your kids ToTing without having to drink way your troubles with "mommy juice" at the end of the night.

I had the same thought! She’s still drinking yet trying to frame it in a way that makes her look superior. Gave me a good chuckle.

You both sound defensive. No one said drinking is wrong, but why do you need to drink WHILE trick or treating with your kids? What is so hard about walking around the neighborhood for a little while that you feel you need that?

Because whether you have a glass of wine during the event or immediately after is the SAME THING.

I mean, this is not correct.

I sometimes have a glass of wine when I get home from work. This is not the same thing as having a glass of wine at my desk at work.

But you still have to parent after trick or treating.

Not really. Once my kids are in bed, my parenting duties are pretty minimal. Certainly more minimal than they are while out trick or treating.

Not really. There could still be an emergency. Sickness. A fire. Some reason you’d need to drive. My point is that a drink or two over the course of an evening does not impair most adults to the point where they cannot perform basic parenting tasks. Including while walking around outside.