Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 19:25     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.


I hope you’re not really a professor. That’s no way to talk about a young person who is leaning.



I know, seriously. Sounds disgruntled and so negative. Why would you teach business if it's so awful?


+1. I really hope he or she isn’t a professor.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 17:22     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.


I hope you’re not really a professor. That’s no way to talk about a young person who is leaning.



I know, seriously. Sounds disgruntled and so negative. Why would you teach business if it's so awful?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 17:21     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

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Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.


Wharton or nothing ... lol


At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.


You are either very old or tremendously misinformed. Most businesses schools are harder admit.


and produce better oitcomes.

Agreed, my child double majored in economics (colleges of arts & sciences) and finance (school of business) at a mid-range state school (Wisconsin) and the recruiting opportunities, job offers, etc. between the two weren't even in the same stratosphere.






Between wisconsin and where else?


I think she’s comparing on-campus recruiting between Wisconsin’s college of arts and sciences and Wisconsin’s school of business. Business schools will almost always have more robust career services than arts and sciences—that’s not unusual.


Oh got it.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 17:07     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? [i][u] Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.


What an odd thing to say. Kids can take economics in high school as well as they can take an intro to engineering class or a physiology class. No 18 year old really knows what it's like to be an investment banker or engineer or doctor.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 16:59     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.


I hope you’re not really a professor. That’s no way to talk about a young person who is leaning.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 16:55     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.



Where are you a professor and what's an employable major if the kid is interested in business?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 16:40     Subject: Re:Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown
BC
Villanova
Fordham
Providence
Elon
Ithaca
NYU
Bentley
BU
Northeastern
Tulane
Bucknell


Elon? Please. Tulane doesn’t have a strong business program either.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 16:14     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:My kid was not really ready during the college search process ... wants to transfer to a “better” school ... finance and accounting double major.


I'm a business professor, and my perennial advice is that business can be a bad unfocused undergrad major.

I took my first accounting and finance courses in my M.B.A. program, and had no idea they were academic areas. How the hell does a freshman want to major in these fields without taking a single course? Why does this student want a "better" school? What does "better" even mean?

My charitable interpretation is that your kid made a bad decision and chose a school with poor opportunities. Now she wants to get her shit together with an employable major.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 15:43     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

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Anonymous wrote:Accounting ensures a high-paying job.

“Business” is a ticket to an entry level sales position.

+1. My finance major just added an accounting double major, in part for security.



+ 1. My son is finance concentration but many people are telling him to major in accounting (he’s a freshman) because it’s easier to start with an accounting job and then branch into finance later on, but not so easy the other way around.


I would agree, my son applied to only to big4, he got 4 interviews and 3 offers, he has good grades, but not perfect. Interned over the summer, received a return offer. Will start at b4 in the fall.


That’s great, congrats to him. I’m the poster whose son is the finance concentration, and I really hope he listens to the advice people are giving him regarding accounting.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 14:11     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

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Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.


Wharton or nothing ... lol


At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.


You are either very old or tremendously misinformed. Most businesses schools are harder admit.


and produce better oitcomes.

Agreed, my child double majored in economics (colleges of arts & sciences) and finance (school of business) at a mid-range state school (Wisconsin) and the recruiting opportunities, job offers, etc. between the two weren't even in the same stratosphere.



Between wisconsin and where else?


I think she’s comparing on-campus recruiting between Wisconsin’s college of arts and sciences and Wisconsin’s school of business. Business schools will almost always have more robust career services than arts and sciences—that’s not unusual.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:57     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.


Wharton or nothing ... lol


At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.


You are either very old or tremendously misinformed. Most businesses schools are harder admit.


and produce better oitcomes.

Agreed, my child double majored in economics (colleges of arts & sciences) and finance (school of business) at a mid-range state school (Wisconsin) and the recruiting opportunities, job offers, etc. between the two weren't even in the same stratosphere.



Between wisconsin and where else?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:56     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.


Wharton or nothing ... lol


At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.


You are either very old or tremendously misinformed. Most businesses schools are harder admit.


and produce better oitcomes.

Agreed, my child double majored in economics (colleges of arts & sciences) and finance (school of business) at a mid-range state school (Wisconsin) and the recruiting opportunities, job offers, etc. between the two weren't even in the same stratosphere.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:49     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:What about the Smeal School at Penn State? I’ve heard good things but don’t have details.


from previous post - this school is said to have 5% acceptance rate - just as difficult as the other penn state (wharton).
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 13:23     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

What about the Smeal School at Penn State? I’ve heard good things but don’t have details.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 12:59     Subject: Business School (undergrad) Recommendations

Anonymous wrote:If you really need a ranking list (you should not, you should be doing better research yourself, as a parent), then this is the most reliable on this thread, thus far, OP. I speak from experience.

https://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/fine-business-programs-at-small-medium-sized-colleges/123/



Looks like this is the better list from that site:
The Experts' Choice: Great Places to Study Business

https://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/the-experts-choice-great-places-to-study-business/120/

Babson College (Babson Park, MA)
Baylor University (Waco, TX)
CUNY — Baruch College (New York, NY)
Clarkson University (Potsdam, NY)
Yes, connect me!
Cornell University (Ithaca, NY)
Emory University (Atlanta, GA)
Northeastern University (Boston, MA)
Syracuse University (Syracuse, NY)
Temple University (Philadelphia, PA)
Texas Christian University (Fort Worth, TX)
Yes, connect me!
The University of Arizona (Tucson, AZ)
The University of Texas at Austin (Austin, TX)
University of Houston (Houston, TX)
University of Michigan — Ann Arbor (Ann Arbor, MI)
Yes, connect me!
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Chapel Hill, NC)
University of Notre Dame (Notre Dame, IN)
University of Oklahoma (Norman, OK)
Yes, connect me!
University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA)
University of Southern California (Los Angeles, CA)
University of Virginia (Charlottesville, VA)
University of Washington, Seattle (Seattle, WA)
Washington University in St. Louis (St. Louis, MO)