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Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

I disagree. They are prettier than the average rich Blonde with money. For example, compare them to Howard Stern’s wife, Beth. She’s a horse. And what about Chelsea Clinton? No amount of money could help that situation.

Come on, people. They are pretty, not stunningly gorgeous, but pretty, and yes, even without make up etc.

Anonymous wrote:They’re both what I like to call “money pretty.”

This is the answer. Otherwise they look like the average make-up, made-up, blondes. Nothing wrong with that.

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Anonymous wrote:They're both pointy Barbies, wear horrible clothes and far too much make up. They also always look like they are posing, like dolls. Honestly I find it difficult to imagine anyone finds that attractive.

They’ve also had a lot of surgeries.

+1 noses for sure

They are both basically pretty, in a way that most women with access to money are. But I imagine both of them look significantly different without makeup or hair styling, which is why I think most people wouldn’t consider them attractive. There’s an awareness that their attractiveness is generic/fake. Also, I think the proportions of Ivanka’s head/neck are off - I realize many fashion models have similar, but it just makes me think of a bird.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.

+1 My list of famous beautiful Black women would take up at least an entire page. Michelle Obama isn’t one of them.

DP but my list of famous, beautiful blonde white women would take up at least an entire page, and Paris Hilton and Ivanka Trump wouldn't be on it. The idea that if you say don't find them attractive ***on a post specifically asking if you find these two women attractive*** you're "very jealous and very racist", but if you bring up Michelle Obama out of complete left field when nobody was talking about her in order to denigrate her looks you're just telling it like it is, is . . . special.

It’s not out of left field. There was definitely a hard push in the last decade or so to diversify what is considered beautiful. Look at magazine covers and commercials. The people in them are very different than the people who used to be in them in the 1990s.

Not only are the models more racially diverse, they are also far less attractive overall. They mostly look like flawed everyday people.

It started with Michelle Obama. She is a talented, smart, successful woman, but she’s fairly average in terms of looks. And yet she was put on the cover of every fashion magazine I can think of. Everyone talked about how stunning and beautiful she was. Don’t you remember?

So, now I walk into Target and see objectively unattractive models of all races, posted all over the walls. If I watch a commercial, there’s rarely anyone remotely attractive in it.

Meanwhile, Paris and Ivanka are objectively cute women. They are not my type at all, but they are both way above average in looks. And yet, here are a bunch of people degrading their looks. I rarely see women that pretty walking around, but I see lots of women who look like Michelle Obama, though maybe a little shorter.

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Anonymous wrote:They look very different to me.
I'd say Paris is an unattractive/unique looking woman who, through a combination of surgery and styling, has made herself look "hot" and "expensive".
Ivanka is an unattractive/basic looking woman who, through a combination of surgery and styling, has made herself look like a Stepford Wife.

When I think of a beautiful blonde woman, I think of January Jones, Kim Basinger or Sharon Stone.

Definitely this. Just recently there was a story about Brett Bauer and his home purchase in Palm Beach, he's a Fox News anchor on something. There were pictures of his family in the article and his wife's appearance was shockingly sad to me. Very step ford like, the blond hair, botox, overfilled everywhere. I was curious if she always looked this way and googled her, wow, why would she do that to herself? I just do not get it other than self esteem issues. And don't ask me to link photos, don't know how to do that .... just reminded me a lot of many women I see these days. I just do not understand, she was very pretty before all of that.

Good god I just looked this up (it is Bret Baier not Bauer) and omg, what has she done to herself?!

Somehow she looks like a man now.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just watching shining vale with Courtney Cox and thought of this thread.

Actress Gus Birney is absolutely stunning. She's also a model.

This just shows that beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. I think she looks like a total sad sack.

Agreed. Her bone structure is too angular. And I don’t like her downcast stare. I can’t decide if she looks more like an elf or like the sort of woman I’d meet at a truck stop in the middle of nowhere. Give me the aristocratic glam of Paris over this one any day.

Boy, is beauty in the eyes of the beholder!

I think Paris' sister, Nicky is actually quite beautiful and more of a classic beautiful blonde than Paris is.

Paris also has a wandering eye. Nothing against those, but it does detract.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.

+1 My list of famous beautiful Black women would take up at least an entire page. Michelle Obama isn’t one of them.

DP but my list of famous, beautiful blonde white women would take up at least an entire page, and Paris Hilton and Ivanka Trump wouldn't be on it. The idea that if you say don't find them attractive ***on a post specifically asking if you find these two women attractive*** you're "very jealous and very racist", but if you bring up Michelle Obama out of complete left field when nobody was talking about her in order to denigrate her looks you're just telling it like it is, is . . . special.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.

+1 My list of famous beautiful Black women would take up at least an entire page. Michelle Obama isn’t one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:They're both pointy Barbies, wear horrible clothes and far too much make up. They also always look like they are posing, like dolls. Honestly I find it difficult to imagine anyone finds that attractive.

They’ve also had a lot of surgeries.

+1 noses for sure

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Halle Berry is beautiful. Michelle Obama is not an attractive woman.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

How is it a very racist post?

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Anonymous wrote:No.
Paris does know how to look good for a camera, but I wouldn't say she's pretty or cute, let alone beautiful.
Ivanka is just repulsive.

You are legally blind.

No, I just don't find either of them attractive, unlike you and OP.
Attractiveness is subjective.

Who do you find attractive for point of reference?

Salma Hayek
Michelle Pfeiffer
Catherine Zeta Jones
Freida Pinto
Cate Blanchett
Monica Bellucci
Rachel Weisz
Elizabeth Hurley
Naomi Campbell
Jacqueline Bissett
Sharon Stone
Zendaya

A small selection of famous women I find attractive.

(Obviously they are not all currently in their prime).

Dark brunettes aren't the only beauties in the world.

I am a dark brunette myself and do think Paris and Ivanka are attractive. Perhaps not knockout stunners, but certainly beautiful enough. Almost all of the women of that celebrity status have had plastic surgeries, so it's not really fair to call them "plastic" compared to anyone else.

I’m a dark brunette, too and completely agree with you! I’m downright disturbed by the pretty, White Blonde girl hate on this board. I dare say the posters doth protest too much about the clear objective attractiveness of both Paris and Ivana. I hate to say it, but a lot of the posters sound very jealous and very racist.

Paris and Ivanka are attractive. They’re not the most beautiful women who ever lived, but they’re very cute no matter how you cut it. Ivanka has legs to die for.

On the same note, can we all stop pretending Michelle Obama is beautiful?

This is a very racist post.

Anonymous wrote:I was just watching shining vale with Courtney Cox and thought of this thread.

Actress Gus Birney is absolutely stunning. She's also a model.

This just shows that beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. I think she looks like a total sad sack.

I m Asian woman, straight.
Honestly, I found both of them very attractive.