Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:45
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except when you have kids in APAnonymous wrote:Unfortunately many of the high schools are NOT treating the actual course this way. McLean had virtually eliminated the majority of math options for kids this year(at the level of AP PreCalc) and Both versions that they provided for AP Precalc were difficult/very challenging. I know the math department there is tough but come on!!! If this is "suppose" to be a "remedial" AP course, its just not and certain High Schools and that is going to be an issue come college admissions time. Don't even get me started on what the above poster stated about there being no difference on the transcripts regarding AP Precal(3 and 4) at McLean. Most teachers told their kids it would be present on their transcripts and then the counselors told them they were incorrect unless College Board decides to recognize it that way(which has not happened). Just a big mess.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
The AP Pre-Cal exam is roughly two-thirds Algebra 2 content and is designed to be accessible to students who may never take another math course.
PreCalc 3 getting A/A- and kids in AP PreCal 4 getting B-/B/B+ because it was that much harder and there is nothing that distinguishes the grades on the transcript.
As long as it gets the 1 point bump, kids who care about GPAs will take it and it won't be remedial. It seems like they would be better off restricting it to seniors and not offering the bump (although that may hurt feelings) and restoring hn pre-calc
Someone should have gotten the counselor's comments that it would be distinguished on the transcript in writing.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:27
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Except when you have kids in APAnonymous wrote:Unfortunately many of the high schools are NOT treating the actual course this way. McLean had virtually eliminated the majority of math options for kids this year(at the level of AP PreCalc) and Both versions that they provided for AP Precalc were difficult/very challenging. I know the math department there is tough but come on!!! If this is "suppose" to be a "remedial" AP course, its just not and certain High Schools and that is going to be an issue come college admissions time. Don't even get me started on what the above poster stated about there being no difference on the transcripts regarding AP Precal(3 and 4) at McLean. Most teachers told their kids it would be present on their transcripts and then the counselors told them they were incorrect unless College Board decides to recognize it that way(which has not happened). Just a big mess.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
The AP Pre-Cal exam is roughly two-thirds Algebra 2 content and is designed to be accessible to students who may never take another math course.
PreCalc 3 getting A/A- and kids in AP PreCal 4 getting B-/B/B+ because it was that much harder and there is nothing that distinguishes the grades on the transcript.
As long as it gets the 1 point bump, kids who care about GPAs will take it and it won't be remedial. It seems like they would be better off restricting it to seniors and not offering the bump (although that may hurt feelings) and restoring hn pre-calc
Anonymous
06/25/2024 14:07
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately many of the high schools are NOT treating the actual course this way. McLean had virtually eliminated the majority of math options for kids this year(at the level of AP PreCalc) and Both versions that they provided for AP Precalc were difficult/very challenging. I know the math department there is tough but come on!!! If this is "suppose" to be a "remedial" AP course, its just not and certain High Schools and that is going to be an issue come college admissions time. Don't even get me started on what the above poster stated about there being no difference on the transcripts regarding AP Precal(3 and 4) at McLean. Most teachers told their kids it would be present on their transcripts and then the counselors told them they were incorrect unless College Board decides to recognize it that way(which has not happened). Just a big mess.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
The AP Pre-Cal exam is roughly two-thirds Algebra 2 content and is designed to be accessible to students who may never take another math course.
As long as it gets the 1 point bump, kids who care about GPAs will take it and it won't be remedial. It seems like they would be better off restricting it to seniors and not offering the bump (although that may hurt feelings) and restoring hn pre-calc
Anonymous
06/25/2024 13:42
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Unfortunately many of the high schools are NOT treating the actual course this way. McLean had virtually eliminated the majority of math options for kids this year(at the level of AP PreCalc) and Both versions that they provided for AP Precalc were difficult/very challenging. I know the math department there is tough but come on!!! If this is "suppose" to be a "remedial" AP course, its just not and certain High Schools and that is going to be an issue come college admissions time. Don't even get me started on what the above poster stated about there being no difference on the transcripts regarding AP Precal(3 and 4) at McLean. Most teachers told their kids it would be present on their transcripts and then the counselors told them they were incorrect unless College Board decides to recognize it that way(which has not happened). Just a big mess.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
The AP Pre-Cal exam is roughly two-thirds Algebra 2 content and is designed to be accessible to students who may never take another math course.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 01:00
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
The AP Pre-Cal exam is roughly two-thirds Algebra 2 content and is designed to be accessible to students who may never take another math course.
Anonymous
06/24/2024 19:38
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
AP teacher here - this is totally normal as kids get used to a new testing format.
Anonymous
06/23/2024 16:20
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:Were the issues at McLean High AP Pre-Cal with the course that prepares you for AB or BC? I heard Pre-Cal 3 (prep for AB) was well-organized and taught so I'm thinking the issue might have been Pre-Cal 4 now called Precal bc.
One issue was whether they would be able to modify/extend the AP Pre-Cal curriculum enough to prepare students for BC as well as the former honors Pre-Cal course. We won't know that until summer 2025 when those students get their BC exam results.
Anonymous
06/23/2024 13:50
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
The major issue (at McLean , not sure about other HS) is that the official transcript does not distinguish the two “classes”( at least not yet). The transcripts indicate your child took AP Pre Calc( no distinguishing between Ap Pre Calc 3 or Ap PreCalc 4). Ap Pre Calc 4 “allows” you to take AP Calc BC next year-that is the only “plus”. No distinguishing of rigor on transcript for the two separate AP Pre Calc classes. AP Pre Calc 4 did at least 4 -5 more sub topics including a lot of Trig. There were no curves in AP Pre Calc 4 there were curves in AP Pre Calc 3 especially on the practice AP test which counted as a “final” for AP Pre Calc 3. It was a major test grade for AP Pre Calc 4(no curve). After the AP test, AP pre Calc 4 had an additional topics and a final during finals week. AP Pre Calc 3 did not. Again nothing on the transcript(thus far) distinguishes the 2 classes. If nothing changes I would recommend not taking the AP Pre Calc 4 at McLean unless your child is definitely going into stem and needs to take Calc BC. Both classes were difficult according to kids in each of the classes. It was rolled out poorly by the school after courses for the year were already chosen. Kids taking the former HN pre Calc/Trig(eliminated) and maybe even regular Pre Calc, were forced to take AP pre Calc. Then sometime in the summer they split kids into the two separate AP Pre Calc classes( 3,4) with teacher recommendation. Very little information was given at the start of school.Anonymous wrote:Were the issues at McLean High AP Pre-Cal with the course that prepares you for AB or BC? I heard Pre-Cal 3 (prep for AB) was well-organized and taught so I'm thinking the issue might have been Pre-Cal 4 now called Precal bc.
Anonymous
06/23/2024 01:44
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Why did she have a C+ early on?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.
Anonymous
06/22/2024 11:47
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Were the issues at McLean High AP Pre-Cal with the course that prepares you for AB or BC? I heard Pre-Cal 3 (prep for AB) was well-organized and taught so I'm thinking the issue might have been Pre-Cal 4 now called Precal bc.
Anonymous
06/21/2024 09:30
Subject: AP Pre-calculus resources/study guides
Anonymous wrote:How was this AP Precalc class at the end the school year at McLean? Where the issues mentioned at the beginning of the year resolved?
We’re not at McLean, but I’m pretty sure this was my comment from the beginning of this thread:
“”My 10th grader has a C+ currently. Always As in previous courses. She says she understands it, but is choking on tests and quizzes.”
Kid ended up with an A for the year and said the AP test was easy. So all ended up ok.