Anonymous wrote:Why are people fleeing a socialist paradise?

They have a corrupt dictator, Madura, not a socialist government

US sanctions, imposed because of Madura, contributed to the starvation and low supply of medicines worsened the misery.

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for Venezuelans. They did quite literally vote in people who proposed an extreme socialist agenda and are now dealing with the issues. Venezuela can't just be abandoned though. It needs to be fixed, and it has to be fixed by Venezuelans since regime change is deeply frowned on these days.

Most countries in Latin America are barely democratic, regardless of whether their governments lean left or right. "The region still has the highest levels of income inequality in the world: Of the 26 most unequal countries in the world, 15 (58%) are Latin American." Any time that's the case, expect to see social instability.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-rapidly-deteriorating-quality-of-democracy-in-latin-america/

I feel bad for Venezuelans. They did quite literally vote in people who proposed an extreme socialist agenda and are now dealing with the issues. Venezuela can't just be abandoned though. It needs to be fixed, and it has to be fixed by Venezuelans since regime change is deeply frowned on these days.

Anonymous wrote:US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

Yup

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Anonymous wrote:US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

Curious timing with the announcement of the building of the wall.

I guess the outcry of the Democratic leaders in Chicago, NY, and other cities as well as the protesting of the voters of these areas is too much for the WH to handle.

I also wonder how many are really goint to be deported. Time will tell. As the saying goes.... we've heard the wind blow before.

Finally, something. It's a start. Probably because there was a new poll that showed that only 23 percent of Americans trusted Democrats on immigration. The vast majority preferred Republicans. The next logical step would be changes in the law, particularly asylum. Hiring a ton of judges to expedite things. And prosecuting people that hire illegals - hospitality, construction, big ag, food service. Traditional Republican supporters.

Realistically, none of that is going to happen.

The southern border will remain open. But you might need a ladder going forward

Not a deterrent. There were pix of people using a ladder to go over the wall.

And when we have border patrol agents free to patrol the border instead of processing and transporting migrants, they can capture those using ladders. That is not the case right now.

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Anonymous wrote:US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

Curious timing with the announcement of the building of the wall.

I guess the outcry of the Democratic leaders in Chicago, NY, and other cities as well as the protesting of the voters of these areas is too much for the WH to handle.

I also wonder how many are really goint to be deported. Time will tell. As the saying goes.... we've heard the wind blow before.

Finally, something. It's a start. Probably because there was a new poll that showed that only 23 percent of Americans trusted Democrats on immigration. The vast majority preferred Republicans. The next logical step would be changes in the law, particularly asylum. Hiring a ton of judges to expedite things. And prosecuting people that hire illegals - hospitality, construction, big ag, food service. Traditional Republican supporters.

Realistically, none of that is going to happen.

The southern border will remain open. But you might need a ladder going forward

Not a deterrent. There were pix of people using a ladder to go over the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

Curious timing with the announcement of the building of the wall.

I guess the outcry of the Democratic leaders in Chicago, NY, and other cities as well as the protesting of the voters of these areas is too much for the WH to handle.

I also wonder how many are really goint to be deported. Time will tell. As the saying goes.... we've heard the wind blow before.

Finally, something. It's a start. Probably because there was a new poll that showed that only 23 percent of Americans trusted Democrats on immigration. The vast majority preferred Republicans. The next logical step would be changes in the law, particularly asylum. Hiring a ton of judges to expedite things. And prosecuting people that hire illegals - hospitality, construction, big ag, food service. Traditional Republican supporters.

Realistically, none of that is going to happen.

The southern border will remain open. But you might need a ladder going forward

Anonymous wrote:US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

Curious timing with the announcement of the building of the wall.

I guess the outcry of the Democratic leaders in Chicago, NY, and other cities as well as the protesting of the voters of these areas is too much for the WH to handle.

I also wonder how many are really goint to be deported. Time will tell. As the saying goes.... we've heard the wind blow before.

US senior admin officials: Today the US is announcing the resumption of removal flights to Venezuela. Starting today, Venezuelan nationals who crossed our border unlawfully…that are found to not have a legal basis to remain will be with swiftly removed back to Venezuela.

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Anonymous wrote:Venezuelans are lying homeless in the streets in Colombia. Not a lot of opportunity there. It's a tough situation.

We need secure borders and a functional immigration system.

"Other people are suffering. But I want to protect the privileges I have just b/c I was lucky enough to be born here."

Gross.

NP. So is your position that any foreign citizen who (by their own definition) is "suffering" and manages to make it to the United States should be allowed to bypass the legal immigration system and live/work here? And be supported by taxpayer funds? And as a follow-on question, do you think the U.S. should have an open border such that any foreign citizen can move here at will? That seems to be what you're implying, but I really don't understand how anyone could actually believe, in good faith, this is a good policy.

No other country allows this. If they did I would have left the US years ago.

Why did we take in Cubans? IMO, Cubans are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to Venezuelans seeking asylum or refugee status.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the Dems in Chicago didn't invite them to come to their city. Not like electing a Rep will suddenly make all the difference for the poor living in Chicago.

Hey, what do they have to lose? Democrats aren't doing a thing about it. Except ignoring the needs of the citizens by catering to the needs of people here illegally.

I'm sure the Dems in Chicago didn't invite them to come to their city. Not like electing a Rep will suddenly make all the difference for the poor living in Chicago.

I live in Chicago and find it shocking how the city and state have come up with orders of magnitude more $$ to help the influx (relatively small influx that it even is, relative to our country's total numbers) of migrants / illegal immigrants / asylum seekers when the obvious problems with our domestic Black and Latino communities have gone minimally addressed (despite SO MUCH handwringing from elected Democrats in our city) for such a long time. This issue will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for low income citizens who are underemployed, lack healthcare, lack decent education, lack affordable and safe housing, and are going to be pitted against this new illegal immigrant community. Elected Democrats are completely tone deaf on this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Venezuelans are lying homeless in the streets in Colombia. Not a lot of opportunity there. It's a tough situation.

We need secure borders and a functional immigration system.

"Other people are suffering. But I want to protect the privileges I have just b/c I was lucky enough to be born here."

Gross.

NP. So is your position that any foreign citizen who (by their own definition) is "suffering" and manages to make it to the United States should be allowed to bypass the legal immigration system and live/work here? And be supported by taxpayer funds? And as a follow-on question, do you think the U.S. should have an open border such that any foreign citizen can move here at will? That seems to be what you're implying, but I really don't understand how anyone could actually believe, in good faith, this is a good policy.

Wow, no wonder you don't care about suffering people, if you think this is the only caring response.

Maybe, just maybe people should fix their own countries? Jeez, novel concept. No country on earth is required to take in foreign nationals from because their countries have high crime and trash economies.