Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must admit, I always thought democrats would bail McCarthy out. And maybe they would have if he had kept his debt deal promise. But he can’t be trusted.

But what nut job will the GOP put in McCarthy’s place? I just don’t see any “moderate” republicans throwing their vote behind Jeffries.

I'm the one that postulated that McCarthy will retain the speakership on page 2. My thought is that the Democrats will no bail McCarthy without some major concessions. McCarthy should have been working on negotiating with the Democrats, but he didn't. So, the Democrats will vote him out. This does not mean that if he comes to them and offers them something, then they could support him for his return to the speakership. But they are not going to do so until he offers something very concrete and worthwhile to them. So, he better be prepared to offer something to them, otherwise they will not support him.

He decided to play games and not reach out to Democrats before the call to vacate and decided not to start negotiating a deal. Gamble big, lose big. So he'll lose his speakership today. Doesn't mean he can't still be voted into the speakership again. So, it's time for him to reach out to the D's and start to negotiate what it will take to re-elect him speaker by offering them concessions.

McCarthy publicly threw the dems under the bus on Sunday. He also allowed the bogus impeachment thing to start. Why on earth would the Dems trust him?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must admit, I always thought democrats would bail McCarthy out. And maybe they would have if he had kept his debt deal promise. But he can’t be trusted.

But what nut job will the GOP put in McCarthy’s place? I just don’t see any “moderate” republicans throwing their vote behind Jeffries.

I'm the one that postulated that McCarthy will retain the speakership on page 2. My thought is that the Democrats will no bail McCarthy without some major concessions. McCarthy should have been working on negotiating with the Democrats, but he didn't. So, the Democrats will vote him out. This does not mean that if he comes to them and offers them something, then they could support him for his return to the speakership. But they are not going to do so until he offers something very concrete and worthwhile to them. So, he better be prepared to offer something to them, otherwise they will not support him.

He decided to play games and not reach out to Democrats before the call to vacate and decided not to start negotiating a deal. Gamble big, lose big. So he'll lose his speakership today. Doesn't mean he can't still be voted into the speakership again. So, it's time for him to reach out to the D's and start to negotiate what it will take to re-elect him speaker by offering them concessions.

Anonymous wrote:I must admit, I always thought democrats would bail McCarthy out. And maybe they would have if he had kept his debt deal promise. But he can’t be trusted.

But what nut job will the GOP put in McCarthy’s place? I just don’t see any “moderate” republicans throwing their vote behind Jeffries.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interested to see what happens now. Wonder who is on McCarthy's list?

"Since 2003, House rules have required the speaker to submit a list of names to the clerk of members to act in the case of his or her vacancy. According to Rule I, clause 8 of the House rules, the next person on that list “shall act as Speaker pro tempore until the election of a Speaker or a Speaker pro tempore.” So whoever is first on McCarthy's list will take over as speaker in an acting capacity."


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kevin-mccarthy-ousted-speaker-house-next-steps-rcna118561

We already know. The Speaker pro tempore is Patrick McHenry.

Anonymous wrote:Interested to see what happens now. Wonder who is on McCarthy's list?

"Since 2003, House rules have required the speaker to submit a list of names to the clerk of members to act in the case of his or her vacancy. According to Rule I, clause 8 of the House rules, the next person on that list “shall act as Speaker pro tempore until the election of a Speaker or a Speaker pro tempore.” So whoever is first on McCarthy's list will take over as speaker in an acting capacity."


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kevin-mccarthy-ousted-speaker-house-next-steps-rcna118561

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would love the shitshow even more if Republicans expel Matt Gaetz from the house!

How exactly would they even do that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Given that Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency, no bill will become law without Democratic support. If the Republicans choose a Speaker who is not prepared to compromise with Democrats, it is a prescription for a stalemate, which will lead to a government shutdown when the CR expires. So, Republicans will now have to decide whether they want to be a part of destruction, or compromise.

Uhh, haven’t you figured out by now that they very much want to be the party of destruction?

1 far right racist is holding up over 300 nominations to US military leadership
8 far right extremists just ousted a House Speaker for the first time in US history

This is not normal.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Given that Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency, no bill will become law without Democratic support. If the Republicans choose a Speaker who is not prepared to compromise with Democrats, it is a prescription for a stalemate, which will lead to a government shutdown when the CR expires. So, Republicans will now have to decide whether they want to be a part of destruction, or compromise.

Uhh, haven’t you figured out by now that they very much want to be the party of destruction?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voting to remove McCarthy is on!

If McCarthy loses, then they go through the whole January rigmarole again? What other Republicans are in contention for speaker?

In a press huddle late yesterday Gaetz mentioned only Scalise by name.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would love the shitshow even more if Republicans expel Matt Gaetz from the house!

How exactly would they even do that?