Anonymous
10/06/2023 08:54
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
they aren't school trips but the teacher is responsible for supervising the kids.
Not sure if you're aware of this but teachers are people! Just like you and I!
I'm far more worried about teachers getting tutoring side jobs through the unwritten referral directory than this.
Wow! You think teachers shouldn't have side gigs? They're not allowed to tutor kids in the school they work in. What's your issue?
They cannot tutor their own students as it’s a conflict of interest. They can have side gigs but not advertise them through the school making parents believe it’s mcps sponsored.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 08:19
Subject: MCPS run international trips
MCPS runs an international trip for middle schoolers - not a private firm. SSIMS French immersion kids go to Paris. SSIMS Spanish kids go to Colombia. All the immersion teachers go. Parents have to pick up some of the financial slack but there’s fundraising. It’s definitely unique in the county and a neat opportunity for the immersion kiddos.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 07:13
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
they aren't school trips but the teacher is responsible for supervising the kids.
Not sure if you're aware of this but teachers are people! Just like you and I!
I'm far more worried about teachers getting tutoring side jobs through the unwritten referral directory than this.
Wow! You think teachers shouldn't have side gigs? They're not allowed to tutor kids in the school they work in. What's your issue?
Anonymous
10/05/2023 22:33
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
Then they should not advertise through the school. That is the issue.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 22:18
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
they aren't school trips but the teacher is responsible for supervising the kids.
Not sure if you're aware of this but teachers are people! Just like you and I!
I'm far more worried about teachers getting tutoring side jobs through the unwritten referral directory than this.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:58
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Yeah no you don't do Europe with a family for 10 days for less than 5k unless you're brining PBJ sandwiches for every meal and sleeping in a flop house.
You can if you stay at cheaper places or family and have frequent flyer miles. And, it depends on the size of the family.
It really doesn't add up. Round trip flights for 4 people is 2500 right there. Even if you managed to stay in a $125 a night hotel with taxes you're now $4000. There would have to be feeding 4 people for 100/day with no sightseeing or transportation for it to be under 5k
There are other ways to do this, but go ahead and assume. I know you think $5k a kid is the only way to do it and can’t conceive of any other way to do it.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:57
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
I’ve received dozens of emails over the years about these trips and I’ll say it again other than a rare occasion they DO NOT make it clear that they are not school trips. It is very misleading.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:55
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Yeah no you don't do Europe with a family for 10 days for less than 5k unless you're brining PBJ sandwiches for every meal and sleeping in a flop house.
Actually for two weeks. Every year.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:39
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
they aren't school trips but the teacher is responsible for supervising the kids.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:34
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:About the trips:
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/watchdog/sdut-company-rewards-teachers-for-school-trips-2011dec26-story.html
They're not school trips so compensation rules don't apply. They make it very, very clear they aren't school trips. Of course, there is always an idiot out there who doesn't bother to read or listen to the numerous times they say they aren't school trips.
I don't find myself becoming mad that a person who coordinates and chaperones my kid for a week should get their trip comped. Honestly the petty people out there are something else.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:28
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Yeah no you don't do Europe with a family for 10 days for less than 5k unless you're brining PBJ sandwiches for every meal and sleeping in a flop house.
You can if you stay at cheaper places or family and have frequent flyer miles. And, it depends on the size of the family.
It really doesn't add up. Round trip flights for 4 people is 2500 right there. Even if you managed to stay in a $125 a night hotel with taxes you're now $4000. There would have to be feeding 4 people for 100/day with no sightseeing or transportation for it to be under 5k
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:24
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:20
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Well, I do admit they weren't sleeping in beggar hostiles and drinking water out of the toilet but I'm sure your vacation is nice.
Aren't you charming.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:20
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Yeah no you don't do Europe with a family for 10 days for less than 5k unless you're brining PBJ sandwiches for every meal and sleeping in a flop house.
You can if you stay at cheaper places or family and have frequent flyer miles. And, it depends on the size of the family.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 20:55
Subject: MCPS run international trips
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No they are run by for profit companies and it’s misleading if teachers to advertise through school means and imply that they are endorsed by the school or a school trip.
This. Teachers probably get a free trip and paid through the company. It’s crazy expensive.
Send dc to Europe last spring for less than we spent on a crappy family vacation. I would say they're the opposite of crazy expensive. They're actually really reasonable. Highly recommend.
Marie Antoinette here thinks $5k per person is reasonable. I take my entire family to Europe for less than that.
Yeah no you don't do Europe with a family for 10 days for less than 5k unless you're brining PBJ sandwiches for every meal and sleeping in a flop house.