Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That FAQ is clear to me. Regardless of which test your child took, the highest percentile for 4th or 5th will be used.

Here's the current FAQ:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gv51hL-0lpBDBBUMqVmoS4B7UAnnSUwoWDBU44WIBTw

Minor clarification -- they look at higher locally normed percentile of Spring MAP-M of 4th and Fall MAP-M of 5th. Only for the Math magnet (doesn't apply to Humanities, which still is fall-MAP-R only, but that follows, given that they are only addressing the concern about the difference in MAP-M test types administered).

Yes, it was pasted into this thread on the previous page.

Helpful, but it looks like an excerpt, and not with that clarifying nuance, which the link/full FAQ describes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That FAQ is clear to me. Regardless of which test your child took, the highest percentile for 4th or 5th will be used.

Here's the current FAQ:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gv51hL-0lpBDBBUMqVmoS4B7UAnnSUwoWDBU44WIBTw

Minor clarification -- they look at higher locally normed percentile of Spring MAP-M of 4th and Fall MAP-M of 5th. Only for the Math magnet (doesn't apply to Humanities, which still is fall-MAP-R only, but that follows, given that they are only addressing the concern about the difference in MAP-M test types administered).

Yes, it was pasted into this thread on the previous page.

Anonymous wrote:That FAQ is clear to me. Regardless of which test your child took, the highest percentile for 4th or 5th will be used.

Here's the current FAQ:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gv51hL-0lpBDBBUMqVmoS4B7UAnnSUwoWDBU44WIBTw

Minor clarification -- they look at higher locally normed percentile of Spring MAP-M of 4th and Fall MAP-M of 5th. Only for the Math magnet (doesn't apply to Humanities, which still is fall-MAP-R only, but that follows, given that they are only addressing the concern about the difference in MAP-M test types administered).

That FAQ is clear to me. Regardless of which test your child took, the highest percentile for 4th or 5th will be used.

There isn't really a grade 4 MAP-M test. There's the ES test that is administered through 5th grade (except, now, for those in Math 5/6) and the test that starts being administered in 6th (or 5th for those taking 5/6). From the information online (e.g., NWEA.org, the creator of the tests), the difference is that the 6th and on test includes access to questions from higher grade level content. The tests are constructed so that scores, on average (across large numbers of test takers), offer relative continuity, but on an individual basis that doesn't necessarily hold, and unexpected swings either way might happen.

I'm not sure that MCPS's compaction of 5 & 6 interleaves content from similar modules between the grades so that some 6th grade content would have been taught at the beginning of the year (that's how AMP 6+ and 7+ are in middle school). Even if so, the exposure to 6th grade material before administration of MAP in the fall would have been vanishingly small, and it doesn't make sense for those in 5/6 to be given the 6th-grade version then when MCPS placement decisions rely on the results. Maybe by now, for winter MAP, it would make sense.

MCPS has put kids in this position because it is using MAP for multiple purposes, for some of which it might not be best suited, at least without some significantly different, detailed and situation-accommodating heuristic.

I'm the PP...in other words, my 5th grader has never taken a Grade 5 MAP M test. He took three Grade 4 Map M tests last year, and then skipped straight to the Grade 6 Map M test this fall.

(which, in retrospect, was not at all well thought out by MCPS and now they are comparing apples to oranges across the board)