Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 09:09     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
When someone says “Ivy” they don’t literally mean exactly the 8 ivy schools. Most people don’t really know all 8 and just use the word as a proxy for a top school. They’re generally also thinking of Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 09:00     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Rich kids that don't get into Ivys or Ivy equivalents go to selective lacs or well-known privates along the lines of Wake Forest.

Many students opt for the honors program at a large State University. Or a private school willing to give good merit.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:59     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


This.

The Ivies have become a little expensive country club for wealthy folks, so many other better options in Canada, Europe and right here.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:57     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy


4 out of 10 and 2 out of the top 3 being ivy doesn't seem top be making the point you want to make.


Top 3 vary substantially year to year.

The fact is that most top schools are not ivy.


Half of the ivy league is top 10, a quarter are top 3. Only in DCUM land would that mean the ivy league isn't prestigious anymore


Was the bottom half ever prestigious?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:42     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy

New ravnkings come out in a month or so we will see if all 8 ivys are still T20. But regardless pp is correct, the ivys being the be all end allvdoes not exist anymore. Ask students trying to land investment banking . NYU, Georgetown and the like weren't always T10 for best placement.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools


Did you read the list? The top school is an ivy and 6 of the 8 ivies are listed as top targets. For a list based on volume, it's pretty impressive that they are outcompeting other schools 10x their size
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:39     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy


4 out of 10 and 2 out of the top 3 being ivy doesn't seem top be making the point you want to make.


Top 3 vary substantially year to year.

The fact is that most top schools are not ivy.


Half of the ivy league is top 10, a quarter are top 3. Only in DCUM land would that mean the ivy league isn't prestigious anymore
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:37     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy

New ravnkings come out in a month or so we will see if all 8 ivys are still T20. But regardless pp is correct, the ivys being the be all end allvdoes not exist anymore. Ask students trying to land investment banking . NYU, Georgetown and the like weren't always T10 for best placement.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:33     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy


4 out of 10 and 2 out of the top 3 being ivy doesn't seem top be making the point you want to make.


Top 3 vary substantially year to year.

The fact is that most top schools are not ivy.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:32     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The smartest kids these days often want the best deal, meaning tuition and financial aid are a big consideration.

College costs a lot more than it used it.


my oldest. got into Dartmouth and Brown and took a v. v. good deal and a top 30 school. we're full pay. kid will end up with 250 left in (and some out) of 529. for kids who either have grad school plans OR kids who are pursuing interests in areas that aren't traditionally high paying, this can make a lot of sense.


Agree this was very smart - will you share where she wound up? Would love to know whicj top 30-ish colleges give a significant amount of merit to high performing applicants.



Had a several offers, but took the USC deal: 4 year, full tuition merit scholarship. Super happy. No regrets.

Good for him. What type of stats did he have to get that deal? What does it take?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:27     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy


4 out of 10 and 2 out of the top 3 being ivy doesn't seem top be making the point you want to make.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:23     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge,


Yeah. Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.


So many good non-ivy schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:07     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge,


Yeah. Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:43     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs


Majority of top 10 schools on USNWR are not ivy
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:38     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:A simple explanation is that the ivies are losing their edge, and that there are lots of good schools these days.


Are they? The most competitive employers still heavily ivy grads and ivy grads are over represented in top ranked graduate programs
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:35     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:The smartest kids these days often want the best deal, meaning tuition and financial aid are a big consideration.

College costs a lot more than it used it.


+1