Anonymous
08/07/2023 00:13
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I went to an OOS flagship but is sports such a big deal for these kids? Does sitting in Michigan Stadium six times a year generate so much interest?
seems like football especially is a big deal in colleges that don't have much else to do outside of campus life.
When you’re 18-22, the campus is your life. Lots of people like it that way too. Not everyone wants to attend college in a huge impersonal city. To each his own.
+100
I didn’t have any desire to attend an urban school and my kids don’t either. We much prefer a beautiful, traditional campus.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:11
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I went to an OOS flagship but is sports such a big deal for these kids? Does sitting in Michigan Stadium six times a year generate so much interest?
seems like football especially is a big deal in colleges that don't have much else to do outside of campus life.
Heaven forbid a college student wants good campus life
Anonymous
08/06/2023 22:05
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The main reason, at least in the case of Virginia, is that the state didn’t grow their flagship school enough. UVA is too small of a flagship for a state with over 8.5 million people in it. It’s half the size of its peers and isn’t serving the people of Virginia nearly as well as it should.
But you forgot to add in William & Mary. No State public system has something like W&M
Noob here .. can you please let us know what W&M offers that no State public system does ?
A $90k small Slac experience at about $38k all in
Oh, come on. My oldest went there and it is not comparable to a “90k slac experience.” You are grossly overstating it.
DP…. Can you elaborate?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:25
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Agree with the Slacs being very left . My child leans moderate and rolls his eyes at much of the liberal t as talk. He knew he’d feel out if place at some of those colleges. He volunteers but is not a social warrior. At a big school, many can find their comfort zone and still venture into many new clubs, activities, etc. He chose a public flagship.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:22
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
We took a look at Kenyon College for my liberal arts oriented kid. We did a loop actually through PA, OH, and IN
Kenyon is a great school but in the middle of nothing. Kid said “nothing here”.
I did want her to go there.
The restaurants, shops and surroundings of the OOS were more appealing, I guess.
Kenyon is a great school but in the middle of nothing. Kid said “nothing here”.
I did want her to go there.
The restaurants, shops and surroundings of the OOS were more appealing, I guess.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:42
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlisted my kid and didn't bother applying to Tech because he's high stat and didn't want to ED.
Crossing the Potomac as a CS major...Go Terps!
+1 Good! Congrats!
B1G Ten
Oculus
Linear Programming
Hybrid Engine
Universal Price Code
Pulse Doppler Radar
Sirius Satellite Radio
Epic Games/Fortnite
Octane System
Terps shape the world !!
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:40
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems that many more DMV grads are choosing OOS state flagships ahead of their mid and top ranked in state options. What is the appeal? Is it because it’s far from home? The cost is so much higher, I am confused why this is now en vogue.
It is a rich family flex. It signals my kids went where they wanted, where they felt happiest — price was not a factor at all. Same when you hear of a rich non-athlete kid going to some relatively obscure liberal arts private college. It’s because money was not a factor.
Uh, no, because OOS schools are almost always less expensive than privates
+1 OOS was at least half of the competitive SLAC. ($90,000. no aid) Couldn't see spending that.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:40
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlisted my kid and didn't bother applying to Tech because he's high stat and didn't want to ED. Crossing the Potomac as a CS major...Go Terps!
+1 Good! Congrats!
UMD >>>> UVA for CS.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:39
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure I would put UVA and UMD in same category. You are going to OOS public instead of in state UVA because you didn't get into UVA. Not many Michigan, UCLA and UNC admit cases. UMD, while a really good school and not that easy to get into instate -- it is not a highly ranked public, more middle of the road. So very likely the OOS is better and you may have even received some merit to make it comparable in price. Add in the allure of geographic diversity and some more interesting places to go to school than College Park and there is your answer. Still think UMD is great choice, great school but not the same declines as UVA......
Maryland is around #60 of over 1000 colleges. How is that not highly ranked?
+1
Exactly.
Everything is relative.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:38
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SLACs have swung too far to the left for many of these kids who are, according to studies, becoming more conservative.
Many parents want their kids to take the basics like math, science, etc. and don't want to pay $90K for "socialist camp."
Their words, not mine.
This was my thinking for not choosing a SLAC. She did get into several, but very turned off by the nonsense. OOS had so many offerings too. Business, Engineering, Health Sciences, good liberal arts, etc.
Sorry, that was my DC's thought process. Didn't want the crazy stuff.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:38
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:SLACs have swung too far to the left for many of these kids who are, according to studies, becoming more conservative.
Many parents want their kids to take the basics like math, science, etc. and don't want to pay $90K for "socialist camp."
Their words, not mine.
This was my thinking for not choosing a SLAC. She did get into several, but very turned off by the nonsense. OOS had so many offerings too. Business, Engineering, Health Sciences, good liberal arts, etc.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 19:35
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlisted my kid and didn't bother applying to Tech because he's high stat and didn't want to ED. Crossing the Potomac as a CS major...Go Terps!
+1 Good! Congrats!
Anonymous
08/06/2023 18:44
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure I would put UVA and UMD in same category. You are going to OOS public instead of in state UVA because you didn't get into UVA. Not many Michigan, UCLA and UNC admit cases. UMD, while a really good school and not that easy to get into instate -- it is not a highly ranked public, more middle of the road. So very likely the OOS is better and you may have even received some merit to make it comparable in price. Add in the allure of geographic diversity and some more interesting places to go to school than College Park and there is your answer. Still think UMD is great choice, great school but not the same declines as UVA......
Lolz
B1G UMD
Loser UVA
Anonymous
08/06/2023 18:42
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:I went to an OOS flagship but is sports such a big deal for these kids? Does sitting in Michigan Stadium six times a year generate so much interest?
It isn’t just football at big flagships, it’s basketball too (depending on the specific school you pick).
Anonymous
08/06/2023 18:40
Subject: Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Greek scene at the big OOS flagships is my only concern. Everything else seems a positive (except the steep prices if no merit, etc)
It’s not big outside of the SEC.
Big 10 Greek scene is huge
Depends on the school, mine are non-greek at Wisconsin and Michigan and never considered it for a minute...no issues
It’s not a big deal at Iowa either.
It’s not a huge deal at any Big10 school. The schools are so large, you can have a big Greek scene and still have a huge non-Greek population as well. It’s only a big deal for those who choose to pay attention.