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Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:You are being cruel and antagonistic. Those cohorts are often very pretty, still thin, great style, nice hair and makeup, and well put together.

You must be a woman. You have every right to say and feel the way you do. Unfortunately, the men in the dating market think otherwise.

Or there's just a shortage of successful AND handsome men out there.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife always thought all of her girlfriends from high school and college were beautiful. Which is nice. Really really nice.

But they weren’t.

exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:I work for a very expensive dating service in Los Angeles, no app and through referral only. 99.9% of the men using this service are very wealthy and all of them want stunning women in their 20's. None of the women in the dating pool is over 30 years old. These men neither care about the woman's money or the MBA. As long as the woman is educated, does not have to be an Ivy education, a state degree is good enough. And being nice.

Very sad that even money can't make a mature person.

If the wealthy men using the dating service want to become dads, especially after accounting for _ years of courting, they likely see women north of 30 and especially those approaching 35 as non-starters. Wealthy men likely see their friends going through IVF struggles and want no part of it.

It's like $20k for IVF and it's the least of the issues in raising a child. Men are just too dumb on raising children to understand this. These men could have just met a woman and settled down themselves by age 35. How many years do men need to play in this country?

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?

Yes.
I know dozens of beautiful, charming, fit, educated and successful women who are single or with men who are some combination of unemployed/ugly/obese/horrible.
I only know one woman who is married to a man who I'd say is a catch, and she's probably the ugliest woman I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you a woman? All men between the age of 18 and 65 want the same thing, regardless of income or education. They want a woman who is hot, stunning, beautiful, kind, and has a good personality, in that order.

They didn't used to. People used to marry real people. First off Hot, stunning, and beautiful are the same thing. Kind and good personality also probably mean the same thing to the person who wrote this. So basically, it is saying men these days want people who are good looking, good in bed, and don't disagree. In other words, inhuman. Despite them being human themselves. They made a movie about this called the Stepford Wives. They killed the woman and created robot women.

It would also be shallow if there was a dating service for women to only pick 45-year-old hot men who made millions that they would just hand over with no disagreements either. It's just shallow. Most men want to be able to have flaws as well as assets and want to be real people who have capacity to make money but also have loyalty when times are hard and aren't being used for it.

The more I go on this site, the more I want to move to another country that doesn't have exposure to the internet making everyone believe they have to be all of these things but not human.

Nobody here said that personality is not important but unless a woman is hot, a rich man will not bother to find out about her personality.  It is like applying for a job, you might have all the qualifications but if your resume does not pass HR, in most cases, you're likely not get the job.

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Anonymous wrote:I work for a very expensive dating service in Los Angeles, no app and through referral only. 99.9% of the men using this service are very wealthy and all of them want stunning women in their 20's. None of the women in the dating pool is over 30 years old. These men neither care about the woman's money or the MBA. As long as the woman is educated, does not have to be an Ivy education, a state degree is good enough. And being nice.

Very sad that even money can't make a mature person.

If the wealthy men using the dating service want to become dads, especially after accounting for _ years of courting, they likely see women north of 30 and especially those approaching 35 as non-starters. Wealthy men likely see their friends going through IVF struggles and want no part of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you a woman? All men between the age of 18 and 65 want the same thing, regardless of income or education. They want a woman who is hot, stunning, beautiful, kind, and has a good personality, in that order.

They didn't used to. People used to marry real people. First off Hot, stunning, and beautiful are the same thing. Kind and good personality also probably mean the same thing to the person who wrote this. So basically, it is saying men these days want people who are good looking, good in bed, and don't disagree. In other words, inhuman. Despite them being human themselves. They made a movie about this called the Stepford Wives. They killed the woman and created robot women.

It would also be shallow if there was a dating service for women to only pick 45-year-old hot men who made millions that they would just hand over with no disagreements either. It's just shallow. Most men want to be able to have flaws as well as assets and want to be real people who have capacity to make money but also have loyalty when times are hard and aren't being used for it.

The more I go on this site, the more I want to move to another country that doesn't have exposure to the internet making everyone believe they have to be all of these things but not human.

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Anonymous wrote:You are being cruel and antagonistic. Those cohorts are often very pretty, still thin, great style, nice hair and makeup, and well put together.

You must be a woman. You have every right to say and feel the way you do. Unfortunately, the men in the dating market think otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for a very expensive dating service in Los Angeles, no app and through referral only. 99.9% of the men using this service are very wealthy and all of them want stunning women in their 20's. None of the women in the dating pool is over 30 years old. These men neither care about the woman's money or the MBA. As long as the woman is educated, does not have to be an Ivy education, a state degree is good enough. And being nice.

Very sad that even money can't make a mature person.

Anonymous wrote:You are being cruel and antagonistic. Those cohorts are often very pretty, still thin, great style, nice hair and makeup, and well put together.