Anonymous
07/21/2023 07:30
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.
Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 07:21
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).
I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.
This makes the VA state senate elections absolutely crucial. We have the slimmest margins right now.
Don’t throw away women’s rights in VA. We already lost them nationally.
15 weeks.
Safe, legal, rare.
Germany and Czechia’s limits are at 12 weeks.
Do you want unfettered access to abortion on demand up to or including live birth?
Anonymous
07/21/2023 07:17
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
It's not. But banned books are. I remember all the banned book displays in my library growing up in the 70s and 80s. There is nothing new here.
Oh, right, I forgot that “Lawn Boy” and “Gender Queer” are of exactly the same intellectual and cultural heft as “The Bluest Eye.”
Anonymous
07/21/2023 06:07
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).
I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.
This makes the VA state senate elections absolutely crucial. We have the slimmest margins right now.
Don’t throw away women’s rights in VA. We already lost them nationally.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 06:03
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
It's not. But banned books are. I remember all the banned book displays in my library growing up in the 70s and 80s. There is nothing new here.
All the books are about gender, that's their focus.
Have you actually looked at the books in question? They're not appropriate for school libraries. We don't allow books with graphic depictions of hetero sex in schools; we shouldn't allow these depictions simply because the characters engaging in them are gay.
There isn’t any actual sex portrayed.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 05:16
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
It's not. But banned books are. I remember all the banned book displays in my library growing up in the 70s and 80s. There is nothing new here.
All the books are about gender, that's their focus.
Have you actually looked at the books in question? They're not appropriate for school libraries. We don't allow books with graphic depictions of hetero sex in schools; we shouldn't allow these depictions simply because the characters engaging in them are gay.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 04:55
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
It's not. But banned books are. I remember all the banned book displays in my library growing up in the 70s and 80s. There is nothing new here.
All the books are about gender, that's their focus.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 04:42
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
the rise in GOP corruption, bigotry, and undemocratic tendencies is pushing people to the left
+1
Plus the misogyny
Anonymous
07/21/2023 04:26
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
Okay, when someone says that the trans stuff is pushing people to the right, I just laugh. They pushed this in the last election and lost hard. They're pushing it in the next election. The idea that you're going to claim such a small minority is somehow going to affect the election is hilarious. Trans people are only an emergency to you because you've just found out about them.
Anonymous
07/20/2023 13:23
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
the rise in GOP corruption, bigotry, and undemocratic tendencies is pushing people to the left
Anonymous
07/20/2023 11:54
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.
Anonymous
07/20/2023 11:43
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
This is what pisses me off about the banned book stuff - it's that the left does it too and they don't acknowledge it. I'm against censorship on both sides.
Amazon Under Fire For Erasing From Its Sales Site Book Critical Of Transgender Movement
https://deadline.com/2021/02/amazon-under-fire-for-removing-transgender-study-1234702507/
Amazon (a multi-billion dollar corporation) making a business decision about how it shows books sales is not censorship. A school board banning specific books is.
Anonymous
07/20/2023 11:27
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
It's not. But banned books are. I remember all the banned book displays in my library growing up in the 70s and 80s. There is nothing new here.
Anonymous
07/20/2023 11:22
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right
Anonymous
07/20/2023 11:21
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).
I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.
I'm afraid that's not the case - they're just going to keep electing incompetent people like Descano.