Anonymous
07/17/2023 15:04
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The workout I get from lifting weights and doing barre is not achievable by cleaning. Like, cleaning is light cardio at best. But anyway.
No one said it is. But what is true, is that if you don’t get functional movement all day long, an hour at the gym does not make up for your functional mobility deficits.
I don’t think most of you understand that if you’re the kind of person who pays monthly for gyms, you’re probably not a lardo who sits around 99.99% of the rest of the time. Furthermore, cleaning your house wouldn’t negate just sitting around doing nothing the rest of the day either. I can’t believe we’re grown adults acting like this is one or the other here.
no one has said this is one or the other. People are just really, really defensive about their workouts.
In fact OP did present it that way
OP here, and I didn't. I said you could "workout less" if you did your own cleaning/gardening. Which I still think is true. At no point did I claim that you could get in peak physical condition by cleaning your house, but many people seem to have read it that way.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 15:03
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:I don't enjoy cleaning, but do plenty of it keeping my house in decent shape between my housekeeper's visits. I do a specific kind of yoga that I cannot replicate through cleaning, so I choose to spend money and time doing that. Some people really enjoy certain types of exercise; it's not a chore like cleaning...
Why do people to all kinds of things with their money that I don't value? Um, I don't care.
I find a lot of types of working out to feel like a "chore." I actually think that's a very common feeling about working out -- it's something many of us do out of obligation. There are active things I do for fun -- hiking, walking, pickle ball, whatever. But going to the gym is a chore I don't actively enjoy. Though I do find it ultimately satisfying when I get the results I want. Kind of like... cleaning.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 15:01
Subject: Re:Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the defensiveness is more about hiring people to clean their homes and tend their gardens.
The point is not that you can achieve peak fitness by cleaning/gardening, but that you would derive SOME fitness from it, while at the same time saving money twice -- the money you pay the housekeeper/gardener, as well as the money you pay your gym or exercise class. The point is that there are fundamental efficiencies to to doing your own chores.
Also, the person you said that people who spend lots of money on gyms and workout classes are not likely to be sitting around all day: Yes, yes they are! In order to make enough money to to pay for a gym or drop $30-50 a class on boutique classes multiple times a week, you need the kind of job where you sit in a chair and look at a computer screen at least 40 hours a week. Some of those people have standing desks, which is smart, but only a tiny fraction.
[b]The people who can afford both cleaners/gardeners and gym memberships are exactly the people who need more functional movement in their lives because so much of their time is spent hunched over a computer or phone. [b]Add in time spent sitting in a car, and it's an enormous amount of sitting.
This is actually a major reason I prefer work from home -- I clean throughout the day, go for walks at lunch, will take a meeting standing at the counter, will fold laundry while listening to a webinar, etc. During Covid, I dropped my expensive workout class and signed up for a much less expensive online version ($200/yr versus $120/mo, it's a steal) and mix that in with cleaning, walking, gardening. I had to invest in some weights for the house, but that's it. It's cheaper and more efficient and I feel stronger and healthier.
There are lots of us who can afford both who don’t work an office job. I’m a SAHM who pays for both. I’m on my feet most of the day. And my mobility is fine.
Oh but if you're a SAHM, you don't really pay for either, do you?
How much time does your DH spend sitting? How does he workout?
Anonymous
07/17/2023 14:58
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Um, I clean my own house out of necessity, and I'm still at least 40 lbs overweight. What am I doing wrong?
No one said you could lose weight cleaning, or get all of your fitness out of cleaning. Just that cleaning your house is a form of exercise that could contribute to overall fitness, and it is odd for someone who highly values fitness to pay someone else to do it while they also pay another entity to provide them with opportunities to work out.
Everyone is so mad about this! It's hilarious!
Anonymous
07/17/2023 14:49
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Um, I clean my own house out of necessity, and I'm still at least 40 lbs overweight. What am I doing wrong?
Reading the post wrong
Anonymous
07/17/2023 14:30
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Um, I clean my own house out of necessity, and I'm still at least 40 lbs overweight. What am I doing wrong?
Anonymous
07/17/2023 14:19
Subject: Re:Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:I think the defensiveness is more about hiring people to clean their homes and tend their gardens.
The point is not that you can achieve peak fitness by cleaning/gardening, but that you would derive SOME fitness from it, while at the same time saving money twice -- the money you pay the housekeeper/gardener, as well as the money you pay your gym or exercise class. The point is that there are fundamental efficiencies to to doing your own chores.
Also, the person you said that people who spend lots of money on gyms and workout classes are not likely to be sitting around all day: Yes, yes they are! In order to make enough money to to pay for a gym or drop $30-50 a class on boutique classes multiple times a week, you need the kind of job where you sit in a chair and look at a computer screen at least 40 hours a week. Some of those people have standing desks, which is smart, but only a tiny fraction.
[b]The people who can afford both cleaners/gardeners and gym memberships are exactly the people who need more functional movement in their lives because so much of their time is spent hunched over a computer or phone. [b]Add in time spent sitting in a car, and it's an enormous amount of sitting.
This is actually a major reason I prefer work from home -- I clean throughout the day, go for walks at lunch, will take a meeting standing at the counter, will fold laundry while listening to a webinar, etc. During Covid, I dropped my expensive workout class and signed up for a much less expensive online version ($200/yr versus $120/mo, it's a steal) and mix that in with cleaning, walking, gardening. I had to invest in some weights for the house, but that's it. It's cheaper and more efficient and I feel stronger and healthier.
There are lots of us who can afford both who don’t work an office job. I’m a SAHM who pays for both. I’m on my feet most of the day. And my mobility is fine.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 14:15
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
I don't enjoy cleaning, but do plenty of it keeping my house in decent shape between my housekeeper's visits. I do a specific kind of yoga that I cannot replicate through cleaning, so I choose to spend money and time doing that. Some people really enjoy certain types of exercise; it's not a chore like cleaning...
Why do people to all kinds of things with their money that I don't value? Um, I don't care.
Why do people to all kinds of things with their money that I don't value? Um, I don't care.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 13:44
Subject: Re:Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
I think the defensiveness is more about hiring people to clean their homes and tend their gardens.
The point is not that you can achieve peak fitness by cleaning/gardening, but that you would derive SOME fitness from it, while at the same time saving money twice -- the money you pay the housekeeper/gardener, as well as the money you pay your gym or exercise class. The point is that there are fundamental efficiencies to to doing your own chores.
Also, the person you said that people who spend lots of money on gyms and workout classes are not likely to be sitting around all day: Yes, yes they are! In order to make enough money to to pay for a gym or drop $30-50 a class on boutique classes multiple times a week, you need the kind of job where you sit in a chair and look at a computer screen at least 40 hours a week. Some of those people have standing desks, which is smart, but only a tiny fraction.
The people who can afford both cleaners/gardeners and gym memberships are exactly the people who need more functional movement in their lives because so much of their time is spent hunched over a computer or phone. Add in time spent sitting in a car, and it's an enormous amount of sitting.
This is actually a major reason I prefer work from home -- I clean throughout the day, go for walks at lunch, will take a meeting standing at the counter, will fold laundry while listening to a webinar, etc. During Covid, I dropped my expensive workout class and signed up for a much less expensive online version ($200/yr versus $120/mo, it's a steal) and mix that in with cleaning, walking, gardening. I had to invest in some weights for the house, but that's it. It's cheaper and more efficient and I feel stronger and healthier.
The point is not that you can achieve peak fitness by cleaning/gardening, but that you would derive SOME fitness from it, while at the same time saving money twice -- the money you pay the housekeeper/gardener, as well as the money you pay your gym or exercise class. The point is that there are fundamental efficiencies to to doing your own chores.
Also, the person you said that people who spend lots of money on gyms and workout classes are not likely to be sitting around all day: Yes, yes they are! In order to make enough money to to pay for a gym or drop $30-50 a class on boutique classes multiple times a week, you need the kind of job where you sit in a chair and look at a computer screen at least 40 hours a week. Some of those people have standing desks, which is smart, but only a tiny fraction.
The people who can afford both cleaners/gardeners and gym memberships are exactly the people who need more functional movement in their lives because so much of their time is spent hunched over a computer or phone. Add in time spent sitting in a car, and it's an enormous amount of sitting.
This is actually a major reason I prefer work from home -- I clean throughout the day, go for walks at lunch, will take a meeting standing at the counter, will fold laundry while listening to a webinar, etc. During Covid, I dropped my expensive workout class and signed up for a much less expensive online version ($200/yr versus $120/mo, it's a steal) and mix that in with cleaning, walking, gardening. I had to invest in some weights for the house, but that's it. It's cheaper and more efficient and I feel stronger and healthier.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 13:24
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The workout I get from lifting weights and doing barre is not achievable by cleaning. Like, cleaning is light cardio at best. But anyway.
No one said it is. But what is true, is that if you don’t get functional movement all day long, an hour at the gym does not make up for your functional mobility deficits.
I don’t think most of you understand that if you’re the kind of person who pays monthly for gyms, you’re probably not a lardo who sits around 99.99% of the rest of the time. Furthermore, cleaning your house wouldn’t negate just sitting around doing nothing the rest of the day either. I can’t believe we’re grown adults acting like this is one or the other here.
no one has said this is one or the other. People are just really, really defensive about their workouts.
In fact OP did present it that way
No - it reads like a mildly intrigued observation that white collar people spend a lot of money on fitness but don’t perform manual labor in their homes. Which seems to be mostly true, judging by this thread. So the level of defensiveness seems to be more about how people feel about their own fitness approaches than about anything op or anyone else said.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 12:49
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The workout I get from lifting weights and doing barre is not achievable by cleaning. Like, cleaning is light cardio at best. But anyway.
I am sure at Fire Island and P-town it helps you hook up with men.
I’m a 38 year old woman, bozo. But ok?
Cherry Grove then. The big Lesbian beach hangout.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 12:48
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The workout I get from lifting weights and doing barre is not achievable by cleaning. Like, cleaning is light cardio at best. But anyway.
No one said it is. But what is true, is that if you don’t get functional movement all day long, an hour at the gym does not make up for your functional mobility deficits.
I don’t think most of you understand that if you’re the kind of person who pays monthly for gyms, you’re probably not a lardo who sits around 99.99% of the rest of the time. Furthermore, cleaning your house wouldn’t negate just sitting around doing nothing the rest of the day either. I can’t believe we’re grown adults acting like this is one or the other here.
no one has said this is one or the other. People are just really, really defensive about their workouts.
In fact OP did present it that way
Anonymous
07/17/2023 12:46
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:I really love to clean and I even like to garden and mow my grass. Can I pay someone to work out for me and lose weight?
Per OP, you are already achieving peak fitness, so that would be unnecessary.
Anonymous
07/17/2023 12:41
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
I really love to clean and I even like to garden and mow my grass. Can I pay someone to work out for me and lose weight?
Anonymous
07/17/2023 12:37
Subject: Having a housekeeper while paying $$$ for workout classes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The workout I get from lifting weights and doing barre is not achievable by cleaning. Like, cleaning is light cardio at best. But anyway.
No one said it is. But what is true, is that if you don’t get functional movement all day long, an hour at the gym does not make up for your functional mobility deficits.
I don’t think most of you understand that if you’re the kind of person who pays monthly for gyms, you’re probably not a lardo who sits around 99.99% of the rest of the time. Furthermore, cleaning your house wouldn’t negate just sitting around doing nothing the rest of the day either. I can’t believe we’re grown adults acting like this is one or the other here.
no one has said this is one or the other. People are just really, really defensive about their workouts.