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Anonymous wrote:They want to take the easy way out!

Who doesn't? Dieting sucks. Seriously, who wants to do things the hard way?

FACTS!

Anonymous wrote:They want to take the easy way out!

Who doesn't? Dieting sucks. Seriously, who wants to do things the hard way?

Angry middle aged 130lb Wellesley grad fed has entered the chat. She is beside herself that her final throws of visibility are going to be crushed by a sea of other middle aged women that slowly encroach on her 20-22 BMI turf.

They want to take the easy way out!

Anonymous wrote:EAT LESS, move more, don't inject yourself with diabetes medication unless you have diabetes. There are drug shortages right now.

+100 but no one wants to do it the right way anymore.

Anonymous wrote:EAT LESS, move more, don't inject yourself with diabetes medication unless you have diabetes. There are drug shortages right now.

No ❤️

Anonymous wrote:EAT LESS, move more, don't inject yourself with diabetes medication unless you have diabetes. There are drug shortages right now.

The success rate for your weight loss strategy is laughably bad. If this is your idea for a public health strategy, you’re going to fail. Badly. I’m amazed you don’t know how doomed your proposal is. Seriously, you’ll be lucky if you see a 15% success rate. Just abysmal. Why would you put all of your eggs in that basket? Like I said, your pick is laughably bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm jealous. I just wanna lose 10-15 pounds.
It must be more widely distributed than I realize.

You are definitely not going to get a Rx for it with 10-15lbs to lose.

So many obese people are on it. Not so many slightly chubby people.

Not true at all. I have several friends on it to lose their baby weight. There are lots of telehealth doctors who will write the scripts for anyone who wants to pay OOP for the meds.

I am on Mounjaro because I am obese and have type II diabetes. My doctor fought with my insurance to get it covered. I kept it secret for a while before disclosing it to my close girlfriends and was floored with 2 of them told me they were on meds, too. They are both skinny with only ~20 lbs of baby weight or covid weight gain to lose. Both pay out of pocket each month.

I am the poster who said it's cheating. People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.

You repeating that won't make it any more true. They are aids just like weights when you're lifting weights or a bike when you want to bike for exercise. You are oddly obsessed with this concept that people who are trying to get healthy are cheating. Are you on the spectrum?

So are you saying that ppl without underlying medical conditions taking these drugs to lose 5-10 lbs to be as skinny as some celebrities are “trying to get healthy”?

1) that's not what you said. You said that anyone who isn't taking it strictly for diabetes is cheating. Even the FDA is telling you that you're an idiot.

2) I couldn't care less who takes it. If they can afford it and they can find it I couldn't care less. It's not my body so I don't concern myself with what they do.

3) The fact that people with virtually endless resources couldn't lose weight before these drugs should be all you need to know about how effective and necessary they are.

So if your kids wanted the drugs, you’re ok with ensuring they can get it?

This is not some kind of illicit street drug FFS.

If ppl are able to get their hands on it through black markets, without a prescription, or a fraudulent one, or one obtained through fraud (eg lying about their conditions), then it’s a “street” drug. Don’t be naive.

So then a 100 other drugs with legitimate uses are street drugs? What do you propose? We not use them?

NP— wegovy is the drug approved for weight loss. It is approved fr BMI 30 or BMI 27, plus a comorbid conditions. People may lie or doctor shop to get a prescription outside these guidelines. But that’s on the prescribing doctor. When used according to the FDA approval guideline, 15 pounds of baby weight people do not get prescriptions. People who buy black market versions risk their health, just like people who buy opiates online.

I am the drugs target audience. I have tried again and again to lose weight for a decade. I drop 15 pounds and gain back 20. Genetics and antidepressants are not my friends in this battle. And I was at BMI 45+. This drug is a game changer. It enables me to stay at 1200 calories, with a very nutrient dense, high protein diet. I started in April and have lost 25 pounds on medication plus diet, averaging 2 pounds a week. I see a PA who is certified in bariatrics, log food and work with a dietician. And now that I have lost enough weight to improve my mobility. I have started working on strength training with a personal trainer and am slowing adding cardiovascular. For the first time, I can see myself getting out of the obese range— although it will take another 10-12 months. I get my medication from my pharmacy and my insurance pays for it for obesity (not diabetes).

So you got me— I’m cheating. I’m using the first tool I’ve found to make a 100 pound weight loss possible for — in a safe, sustainable manner. And yes, I may need to stay on a lower dose forever to maintain my weight but, that’s better than an early death to heart, attack, stroke or diabetes. And, my quality of life is much higher.

And, I think you’re full of sh*t. Because when I was morbidly obese and stuck in a gain-loss cycle, people like you also sneered at me, said things like insurance shouldn’t cover my heart attack because it was a result of poor lifestyle choices, assumed I was lazy and slovenly, said I was hard to look at and snarked behind my back. I now have a tool that is enabling me to slowly achieve a healthy weight, make dietary changes, lose enough weight to make exercise realistic. My heart rate, BP, cholesterol and A1c are lower. How is that bad? And how is making use of an approved medication to help me get there cheating? I’m not looking for a moral victory. I’m looking for improved health.

So, I really can’t win with you, can I? I’m fat, lazy and don’t care about my health. Or, I’m a cheater.

EAT LESS, move more, don't inject yourself with diabetes medication unless you have diabetes. There are drug shortages right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm jealous. I just wanna lose 10-15 pounds.
It must be more widely distributed than I realize.

You are definitely not going to get a Rx for it with 10-15lbs to lose.

So many obese people are on it. Not so many slightly chubby people.

Not true at all. I have several friends on it to lose their baby weight. There are lots of telehealth doctors who will write the scripts for anyone who wants to pay OOP for the meds.

I am on Mounjaro because I am obese and have type II diabetes. My doctor fought with my insurance to get it covered. I kept it secret for a while before disclosing it to my close girlfriends and was floored with 2 of them told me they were on meds, too. They are both skinny with only ~20 lbs of baby weight or covid weight gain to lose. Both pay out of pocket each month.

I am the poster who said it's cheating. People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.

You sound like a five year old who doesn’t know what words mean. It’s not a game or a competition. One cannot cheat at pursuing health.

You are a troll. You repeatedly focus on the use of “cheat” as if you’re triggered or trying to instigate/derail legitimate discussion and points. It’s not hard to distinguish between someone using it because they need it (eg have diabetes) and someone who’s using it to lose “baby fat” as in PP’s example of her friends who are paying out of pocket for it just to lose a little bit of weight. The latter is not pursuing health.

What? PP stated anyone who is using it to lose weight is cheating: “People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.”

I do not have diabetes. I am only using it to lose weight in the pursuit of health. I am not cheating anything or anyone and it is ludicrous to say so.

There are those who abusing prescription drugs to become as thin as possible unnecessarily. Again, it makes no sense to call it cheating. It’s drug abuse the same way taking pain medication unnecessarily is drug abuse.

It's been stated multiple times to not be sustainable, you have to be on it for life. How is that a pursuit of health?

You have to be on a restricted diet and/or exercise religiously for life. Otherwise the weight comes right back. Unsustainable!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm jealous. I just wanna lose 10-15 pounds.
It must be more widely distributed than I realize.

You are definitely not going to get a Rx for it with 10-15lbs to lose.

So many obese people are on it. Not so many slightly chubby people.

Not true at all. I have several friends on it to lose their baby weight. There are lots of telehealth doctors who will write the scripts for anyone who wants to pay OOP for the meds.

I am on Mounjaro because I am obese and have type II diabetes. My doctor fought with my insurance to get it covered. I kept it secret for a while before disclosing it to my close girlfriends and was floored with 2 of them told me they were on meds, too. They are both skinny with only ~20 lbs of baby weight or covid weight gain to lose. Both pay out of pocket each month.

I am the poster who said it's cheating. People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.

You sound like a five year old who doesn’t know what words mean. It’s not a game or a competition. One cannot cheat at pursuing health.

You are a troll. You repeatedly focus on the use of “cheat” as if you’re triggered or trying to instigate/derail legitimate discussion and points. It’s not hard to distinguish between someone using it because they need it (eg have diabetes) and someone who’s using it to lose “baby fat” as in PP’s example of her friends who are paying out of pocket for it just to lose a little bit of weight. The latter is not pursuing health.

What? PP stated anyone who is using it to lose weight is cheating: “People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.”

I do not have diabetes. I am only using it to lose weight in the pursuit of health. I am not cheating anything or anyone and it is ludicrous to say so.

There are those who abusing prescription drugs to become as thin as possible unnecessarily. Again, it makes no sense to call it cheating. It’s drug abuse the same way taking pain medication unnecessarily is drug abuse.

It's been stated multiple times to not be sustainable, you have to be on it for life. How is that a pursuit of health?

Because being on the drug makes me healthier. How is that not a pursuit of health?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm jealous. I just wanna lose 10-15 pounds.
It must be more widely distributed than I realize.

You are definitely not going to get a Rx for it with 10-15lbs to lose.

So many obese people are on it. Not so many slightly chubby people.

Not true at all. I have several friends on it to lose their baby weight. There are lots of telehealth doctors who will write the scripts for anyone who wants to pay OOP for the meds.

I am on Mounjaro because I am obese and have type II diabetes. My doctor fought with my insurance to get it covered. I kept it secret for a while before disclosing it to my close girlfriends and was floored with 2 of them told me they were on meds, too. They are both skinny with only ~20 lbs of baby weight or covid weight gain to lose. Both pay out of pocket each month.

I am the poster who said it's cheating. People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.

You sound like a five year old who doesn’t know what words mean. It’s not a game or a competition. One cannot cheat at pursuing health.

You are a troll. You repeatedly focus on the use of “cheat” as if you’re triggered or trying to instigate/derail legitimate discussion and points. It’s not hard to distinguish between someone using it because they need it (eg have diabetes) and someone who’s using it to lose “baby fat” as in PP’s example of her friends who are paying out of pocket for it just to lose a little bit of weight. The latter is not pursuing health.

What? PP stated anyone who is using it to lose weight is cheating: “People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.”

I do not have diabetes. I am only using it to lose weight in the pursuit of health. I am not cheating anything or anyone and it is ludicrous to say so.

There are those who abusing prescription drugs to become as thin as possible unnecessarily. Again, it makes no sense to call it cheating. It’s drug abuse the same way taking pain medication unnecessarily is drug abuse.

It's been stated multiple times to not be sustainable, you have to be on it for life. How is that a pursuit of health?

People who wish for others to fail keep stating that. There aren't enough long term studies to be sure. However, lets assume that you are correct and that you have to be on it for life (on a lower maintenance dose). How is that any worse than being on statins and BP meds for life both of which I have been able to ditch because I lost 60 lbs. You are grasping at straws. It is a pursuit of health because being on Ozempic does not cause harm like clogged arteries or diabetes do.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm jealous. I just wanna lose 10-15 pounds.
It must be more widely distributed than I realize.

You are definitely not going to get a Rx for it with 10-15lbs to lose.

So many obese people are on it. Not so many slightly chubby people.

Not true at all. I have several friends on it to lose their baby weight. There are lots of telehealth doctors who will write the scripts for anyone who wants to pay OOP for the meds.

I am on Mounjaro because I am obese and have type II diabetes. My doctor fought with my insurance to get it covered. I kept it secret for a while before disclosing it to my close girlfriends and was floored with 2 of them told me they were on meds, too. They are both skinny with only ~20 lbs of baby weight or covid weight gain to lose. Both pay out of pocket each month.

I am the poster who said it's cheating. People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.

You sound like a five year old who doesn’t know what words mean. It’s not a game or a competition. One cannot cheat at pursuing health.

You are a troll. You repeatedly focus on the use of “cheat” as if you’re triggered or trying to instigate/derail legitimate discussion and points. It’s not hard to distinguish between someone using it because they need it (eg have diabetes) and someone who’s using it to lose “baby fat” as in PP’s example of her friends who are paying out of pocket for it just to lose a little bit of weight. The latter is not pursuing health.

What? PP stated anyone who is using it to lose weight is cheating: “People who want these medicines to lose weight and for no other reason are cheating by using it. If you have diabetes then OK, but just as a form to lose weight (like most celebrities who have lost unhealthy amounts recently), are cheating.”

I do not have diabetes. I am only using it to lose weight in the pursuit of health. I am not cheating anything or anyone and it is ludicrous to say so.

There are those who abusing prescription drugs to become as thin as possible unnecessarily. Again, it makes no sense to call it cheating. It’s drug abuse the same way taking pain medication unnecessarily is drug abuse.

It's been stated multiple times to not be sustainable, you have to be on it for life. How is that a pursuit of health?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be jealous, it has a lot of side effects, is expensive AF, hard to find, an injectable, and NOT sustainable.

+1. I have 60 lbs to lose, have been on it for 5 months, and have lost 5 lbs.

What is your expected schedule of progress?

What was your weight change in the 5months previous to starting?

You HAVE to use it as an aid to reduce the calorie intake. I started weight watchers at the same time I started Ozempic and lost 60 lbs in 7 months. I wanted to make sure I changed my eating habits and was doing something sustainable. The drug won't simply melt you away.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be jealous, it has a lot of side effects, is expensive AF, hard to find, an injectable, and NOT sustainable.

+1. I have 60 lbs to lose, have been on it for 5 months, and have lost 5 lbs.

What is your expected schedule of progress?

What was your weight change in the 5months previous to starting?