Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is a lot more to this story. for instance, the Poe Middle School teacher making things up and disparaging the Annandale teacher and band kids. Holmes band teacher was also logging complaints because he wanted the high school kids treated like middle school kids. this is only a fraction of the crazy crap. lol the Poe teacher then interviewed for the position but didn’t get it.
This is so untrue and I love how you say it with such authority. Neither of those band directors have any plans of leaving their respective schools as both are close to retirement. The Holmes teacher has been there for more than 25 years!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has to be more to this story. It's not ok to scream and yell, but being strict with a large group of kids is not a bad thing and probably needed. We've had lots of activities, including music and you need strict and structured, especially for music but one issue we see in MS/HS band is the lack of teaching and kids need to know the instrument or be in private music lessons to be successful as in ES they teach individual instruments but not in MS/HS so many kids struggle.
For a band director, yes, it's ok. Otherwise chaos and mediocrity.
My child is in private orchestra and there is no yelling or screaming. It's not ok. He's to focused on being a digital content creator and its not ok to be filming his classes and broadcasting them. He's not screaming in what I saw but he's pretty flat and bland and putting on a show for the camera. He's not making the classes fun or engaging. And, not much instruction, a few comments and that's it.
Well, orchestra is inside while marching band is outside with literal moving pieces/students and isn’t marching band twice as big as orchestra.
Screaming outside is a bit different so kids can hear vs. scream and being negative. From what he posted there was very little engagement with the students and he was very flat. Ideally marching bad should have 100-200 kids if it's fun and engaging.
Anonymous wrote:The teacher’s social media posts really rub me the wrong way, but he may be a great teacher and band director. Do most young teachers post cringeworthy material on social media personal accts? It may be a generational thing. I graduated from college 15 years ago so may be oblivious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s flat and not engaging, yet his band has won countless awards as soon as he set foot in the band room. It appears that you all have the facts! Just say it already! You don’t like the fact that a black male is acting black.
His marching band may have won countless awards playing easy pop music with a good show…there’s talent sure. But what about the concert band. I heard tons of kids were quitting and their quality in traditional music was way going down hill. The band alumni community have been watching.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article said that the year before he received an effective rating. 31 out of 40. I know nothing about how FCPS rates teachers, but 31 out of 40 does not seem very high to me.
Could some teachers weigh in on this?
There is likely a lot on both sides of this issue that we do not know.
The ratings are needs improvement, effective, highly effective. Highly effective is extremely rare. Needs improvement as an overall score is not common and usually results in a PIP but doesn’t have to for a teacher within the 1st 3 years. Effective is the score for 80%+ of teachers. Highly effective is a score of 35-40. 31 is a very good score. Needs improvement is down around 20, I believe.
Depending on the subject taught, a good quality teacher can get a needs improvement in a sub-rating category just because enough students didn’t score high enough on one single score measure. Imagine teaching at a Title 1 school with high absences and getting a needs improvement sub score because 74% of students made expected progress instead of 75%.
These evaluations are only as valid as the relationship between the evaluator and evaluatee. If they want you gone, you’re gone.
Has anyone ever considered it suspect that the athletics director left after this guys’ first year and maybe he didn’t care and that’s why the rating was good because he was like peace out! Have fun!
And the new guy comes in and recommends firing him in the first semester he's there. That seems extreme.
It’s not that easy to just get rid of a teacher.
That's what happened. Great reviews for year 1. For year 2, two semesters of recommendation of do not reappoint. Gone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article said that the year before he received an effective rating. 31 out of 40. I know nothing about how FCPS rates teachers, but 31 out of 40 does not seem very high to me.
Could some teachers weigh in on this?
There is likely a lot on both sides of this issue that we do not know.
The ratings are needs improvement, effective, highly effective. Highly effective is extremely rare. Needs improvement as an overall score is not common and usually results in a PIP but doesn’t have to for a teacher within the 1st 3 years. Effective is the score for 80%+ of teachers. Highly effective is a score of 35-40. 31 is a very good score. Needs improvement is down around 20, I believe.
Depending on the subject taught, a good quality teacher can get a needs improvement in a sub-rating category just because enough students didn’t score high enough on one single score measure. Imagine teaching at a Title 1 school with high absences and getting a needs improvement sub score because 74% of students made expected progress instead of 75%.
These evaluations are only as valid as the relationship between the evaluator and evaluatee. If they want you gone, you’re gone.
Has anyone ever considered it suspect that the athletics director left after this guys’ first year and maybe he didn’t care and that’s why the rating was good because he was like peace out! Have fun!
And the new guy comes in and recommends firing him in the first semester he's there. That seems extreme.
It’s not that easy to just get rid of a teacher.
Anonymous wrote:
A lot of FCPS schools REQUIRE kids in symphonic band to be in the marching band. They can’t get a lot of kids to join, so to go to the higher level classes they have to join. Consequently, their musical performances often outshine schools from other districts who take students at all ability levels. I don’t know the policy at Annandale. But if you’ve got a lot of kids who don’t want to be there in the first place, who are then treated strictly, they will turn on you in an instant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article said that the year before he received an effective rating. 31 out of 40. I know nothing about how FCPS rates teachers, but 31 out of 40 does not seem very high to me.
Could some teachers weigh in on this?
There is likely a lot on both sides of this issue that we do not know.
The ratings are needs improvement, effective, highly effective. Highly effective is extremely rare. Needs improvement as an overall score is not common and usually results in a PIP but doesn’t have to for a teacher within the 1st 3 years. Effective is the score for 80%+ of teachers. Highly effective is a score of 35-40. 31 is a very good score. Needs improvement is down around 20, I believe.
Depending on the subject taught, a good quality teacher can get a needs improvement in a sub-rating category just because enough students didn’t score high enough on one single score measure. Imagine teaching at a Title 1 school with high absences and getting a needs improvement sub score because 74% of students made expected progress instead of 75%.
These evaluations are only as valid as the relationship between the evaluator and evaluatee. If they want you gone, you’re gone.
Has anyone ever considered it suspect that the athletics director left after this guys’ first year and maybe he didn’t care and that’s why the rating was good because he was like peace out! Have fun!
And the new guy comes in and recommends firing him in the first semester he's there. That seems extreme.
Anonymous wrote:He’s flat and not engaging, yet his band has won countless awards as soon as he set foot in the band room. It appears that you all have the facts! Just say it already! You don’t like the fact that a black male is acting black.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article said that the year before he received an effective rating. 31 out of 40. I know nothing about how FCPS rates teachers, but 31 out of 40 does not seem very high to me.
Could some teachers weigh in on this?
There is likely a lot on both sides of this issue that we do not know.
The ratings are needs improvement, effective, highly effective. Highly effective is extremely rare. Needs improvement as an overall score is not common and usually results in a PIP but doesn’t have to for a teacher within the 1st 3 years. Effective is the score for 80%+ of teachers. Highly effective is a score of 35-40. 31 is a very good score. Needs improvement is down around 20, I believe.
Depending on the subject taught, a good quality teacher can get a needs improvement in a sub-rating category just because enough students didn’t score high enough on one single score measure. Imagine teaching at a Title 1 school with high absences and getting a needs improvement sub score because 74% of students made expected progress instead of 75%.
These evaluations are only as valid as the relationship between the evaluator and evaluatee. If they want you gone, you’re gone.
Has anyone ever considered it suspect that the athletics director left after this guys’ first year and maybe he didn’t care and that’s why the rating was good because he was like peace out! Have fun!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article said that the year before he received an effective rating. 31 out of 40. I know nothing about how FCPS rates teachers, but 31 out of 40 does not seem very high to me.
Could some teachers weigh in on this?
There is likely a lot on both sides of this issue that we do not know.
The ratings are needs improvement, effective, highly effective. Highly effective is extremely rare. Needs improvement as an overall score is not common and usually results in a PIP but doesn’t have to for a teacher within the 1st 3 years. Effective is the score for 80%+ of teachers. Highly effective is a score of 35-40. 31 is a very good score. Needs improvement is down around 20, I believe.
Depending on the subject taught, a good quality teacher can get a needs improvement in a sub-rating category just because enough students didn’t score high enough on one single score measure. Imagine teaching at a Title 1 school with high absences and getting a needs improvement sub score because 74% of students made expected progress instead of 75%.
These evaluations are only as valid as the relationship between the evaluator and evaluatee. If they want you gone, you’re gone.
Anonymous wrote:there is a lot more to this story. for instance, the Poe Middle School teacher making things up and disparaging the Annandale teacher and band kids. Holmes band teacher was also logging complaints because he wanted the high school kids treated like middle school kids. this is only a fraction of the crazy crap. lol the Poe teacher then interviewed for the position but didn’t get it.