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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

I mean, how would you know this?

If this poster is “crossing the border” into the suburbs to eat dinner, where else in DC would she be living?

I was referring to the darling conclusion that anything north of ~about Woodley Park** is "not a city." How would you know this? Have you left NoMa since you arrived in DC?


** north of Woodley Park and __ west of RCP___. Note that for the smug Logan Circle crowd originally from Bala Cynwyd, it IS actually ok to live far, far north in the District, or far Northeast ... so long as your public excuse is wanting a big organic garden; you paint your once-beautiful stone house all white [with black windows]; and most importantly, you live east of RCP in places like Takoma Park, Fort Totten, Brightwood Park and especially, especially 16th St Heights.

LOL.

On the other hand, it is basically true that upper Ward 3 is the suburbs. (And I say that as someone who lives in upper Ward 3, previously lived in Wards 1, 2, and 4, and grew up in the Maryland suburbs.)

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

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Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

Drive past Vienna and its Centerville and Manassas. Stroad-a-licious big box stores. Yay. Drive north on 270 and Rockville - parts are quant, but the Pike is there - more stroads and big box stores. Go anywhere on the east side of the city outside of the most immediate regions like Hyattsville or Mount Rainer - more stroads and big box stores. Cool.

Also there's an Applebee's on freaking Penn Ave just 4 miles outside the city in the SE. There's another in Largo, 6 miles east. There's another just south of Alexandria about 4.5 miles SW of the city. Yeah, the immediate stuff on the border of the city generally is okay - places like Bethesda, Crystal City, Alexandria, Takoma Park, etc. But go even a couple miles out from that and its just like any other place in America bud. Big box stores, chain restaurants galore, tons of wide 4-8 lane roads, fast food freakign everywhere.

Areas with stroads can, and in fact do, have diverse populations. To the extent the stroady parts of the DC suburbs are "just like any other place in America bud", it's because American suburbs are diverse and keep getting more so. It's 2023, not 1965.

I didn't say anything about who was living there. This is about restaurant choices. With few exceptions like downtown Wheaton, there is very little that's outside of a couple miles from DC that has a solid footprint of eclectic dining establishments because of the pervasiveness of stroady big boxes and large corporate owned restaurant or fast food chains.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

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Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

Drive past Vienna and its Centerville and Manassas. Stroad-a-licious big box stores. Yay. Drive north on 270 and Rockville - parts are quant, but the Pike is there - more stroads and big box stores. Go anywhere on the east side of the city outside of the most immediate regions like Hyattsville or Mount Rainer - more stroads and big box stores. Cool.

Also there's an Applebee's on freaking Penn Ave just 4 miles outside the city in the SE. There's another in Largo, 6 miles east. There's another just south of Alexandria about 4.5 miles SW of the city. Yeah, the immediate stuff on the border of the city generally is okay - places like Bethesda, Crystal City, Alexandria, Takoma Park, etc. But go even a couple miles out from that and it's just like any other place in America bud. Big box stores, chain restaurants galore, tons of wide 4-8 lane roads, fast food freakign everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

I mean, how would you know this?

If this poster is “crossing the border” into the suburbs to eat dinner, where else in DC would she be living?

I was referring to the darling conclusion that anything north of ~about Woodley Park** is "not a city." How would you know this? Have you left NoMa since you arrived in DC?


** north of Woodley Park and __ west of RCP___. Note that for the smug Logan Circle crowd originally from Bala Cynwyd, it IS actually ok to live far, far north in the District, or far Northeast ... so long as your public excuse is wanting a big organic garden; you paint your once-beautiful stone house all white [with black windows]; and most importantly, you live east of RCP in places like Takoma Park, Fort Totten, Brightwood Park and especially, especially 16th St Heights.

Anonymous wrote:The census bureau said a year or so ago that compared to states, dc is the only place in the country that is becoming whiter

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with restaurants being allowed to set up tables in a parking lane provided they pay "rent" to the city. They shouldn't be allowed to take over public spaces for free.

Also agree with the PP re: sidewalks.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

+1000

Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

Drive past Vienna and its Centerville and Manassas. Stroad-a-licious big box stores. Yay. Drive north on 270 and Rockville - parts are quant, but the Pike is there - more stroads and big box stores. Go anywhere on the east side of the city outside of the most immediate regions like Hyattsville or Mount Rainer - more stroads and big box stores. Cool.

Also there's an Applebee's on freaking Penn Ave just 4 miles outside the city in the SE. There's another in Largo, 6 miles east. There's another just south of Alexandria about 4.5 miles SW of the city. Yeah, the immediate stuff on the border of the city generally is okay - places like Bethesda, Crystal City, Alexandria, Takoma Park, etc. But go even a couple miles out from that and its just like any other place in America bud. Big box stores, chain restaurants galore, tons of wide 4-8 lane roads, fast food freakign everywhere.

Areas with stroads can, and in fact do, have diverse populations. To the extent the stroady parts of the DC suburbs are "just like any other place in America bud", it's because American suburbs are diverse and keep getting more so. It's 2023, not 1965.

I didn't say anything about who was living there. This is about restaurant choices. With few exceptions like downtown Wheaton, there is very little that's outside of a couple miles from DC that has a solid footprint of eclectic dining establishments because of the pervasiveness of stroady big boxes and large corporate owned restaurant or fast food chains.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

+1000

Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

+1000

Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

Drive past Vienna and its Centerville and Manassas. Stroad-a-licious big box stores. Yay. Drive north on 270 and Rockville - parts are quant, but the Pike is there - more stroads and big box stores. Go anywhere on the east side of the city outside of the most immediate regions like Hyattsville or Mount Rainer - more stroads and big box stores. Cool.

Also there's an Applebee's on freaking Penn Ave just 4 miles outside the city in the SE. There's another in Largo, 6 miles east. There's another just south of Alexandria about 4.5 miles SW of the city. Yeah, the immediate stuff on the border of the city generally is okay - places like Bethesda, Crystal City, Alexandria, Takoma Park, etc. But go even a couple miles out from that and its just like any other place in America bud. Big box stores, chain restaurants galore, tons of wide 4-8 lane roads, fast food freakign everywhere.

Areas with stroads can, and in fact do, have diverse populations. To the extent the stroady parts of the DC suburbs are "just like any other place in America bud", it's because American suburbs are diverse and keep getting more so. It's 2023, not 1965.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

I mean, how would you know this?

If this poster is “crossing the border” into the suburbs to eat dinner, where else in DC would she be living?

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

+1000

Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.

Drive past Vienna and its Centerville and Manassas. Stroad-a-licious big box stores. Yay. Drive north on 270 and Rockville - parts are quant, but the Pike is there - more stroads and big box stores. Go anywhere on the east side of the city outside of the most immediate regions like Hyattsville or Mount Rainer - more stroads and big box stores. Cool.

Also there's an Applebee's on freaking Penn Ave just 4 miles outside the city in the SE. There's another in Largo, 6 miles east. There's another just south of Alexandria about 4.5 miles SW of the city. Yeah, the immediate stuff on the border of the city generally is okay - places like Bethesda, Crystal City, Alexandria, Takoma Park, etc. But go even a couple miles out from that and its just like any other place in America bud. Big box stores, chain restaurants galore, tons of wide 4-8 lane roads, fast food freakign everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

If I can't find parking within the four spots directly in front of the door of an establishment, I'm not going to eat there!!!

Have a nice dinner at Applebees!

There are no Applebees within 15 miles of DC. Once again you have shown a complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the DMV. Go back to whatever godforsaken town you are from and make that place better.

+1000

Also, uh, this is DC — the suburbs are way more diverse *in every possible way* than the city itself. You can tell the people on this thread who are so, so eager to dunk on the suburbs as some sort of 1950s stereotype haven’t been here very long. The suburbs of DC are not like the suburbs in the crappy midwestern state you just moved here from.