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Anonymous wrote:No comments yet about the "Joshua movement?" Hasn't anyone seen the last episode? The former Supreme Court clerk's interview? There's a huge untold story there, and it reaches far beyond the devotees of IBLP.

I'm sure there is more recent stuff out there, but God's Harvard is an engaging read with information about the Joshua Generation.

Yes, but that book just scratches the surface and is narrowly focused on one corner of academia. There is a much bigger story (I have witnessed it since the 1990's).
You have no idea.

Anonymous wrote:No comments yet about the "Joshua movement?" Hasn't anyone seen the last episode? The former Supreme Court clerk's interview? There's a huge untold story there, and it reaches far beyond the devotees of IBLP.

I'm sure there is more recent stuff out there, but God's Harvard is an engaging read with information about the Joshua Generation.

No comments yet about the "Joshua movement?" Hasn't anyone seen the last episode? The former Supreme Court clerk's interview? There's a huge untold story there, and it reaches far beyond the devotees of IBLP.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about this family that makes you hate them so much?
Just don’t watch the show
There are plenty of weirdo’s

I don’t hate the family at all. I feel sorry for most of them (not Josh or Jim Bob though). And I feel scared about the ways the culture they endorse has the potential to injure people.

Michelle Duggar is complicit.

Yeah I can’t say I feel that sorry for Michelle either since she made the conscious choice to join the religion/ideology and fully advocated for a lot of the horrible decisions the fault made. I’m more conflicted about Anna (Josh’s wife): on one hand, her choices to keep having kids with Josh and letting her husband have access to his kids horrify me but on the other hand, she was raised in this group with the idea that she must submit to her husband and with 7 kids and limited options for taking care of them I do feel like she’s in a very difficult scenario.

I see Anna as complicit
She could have rebelled and gotten her tubes tied when the scandal broke, instead she fixes everything by having another baby

How would she support herself with that many kids and no education? Michelle made her choice and she's a leader in that community. The kids have been brainwashed and abused to comply.

Anna is a grown woman, not a brainwashed child
Having another baby is not the way to fix things
She would have been fine with alimony and child support. The family is wealthy

And to think, the Duggars were brought down by a photo of Tandra Barnfield kissing her wife Samantha Munzy in protest of Michelle's anti-gay robocall.

Had Michelle never participated in the calls, Barnfield and Munzy wouldn't have protested by snapping a photo of themselves kissing in front of the Duggar's house. That photo never would have gone viral. No one would know who they were. The media wouldn't have reached out and learned of the sordid past Josh had from Barnfield. In Touch wouldn't have run with the rumors and submitted FOIA.

Happy Pride, y'all!

Anonymous wrote:Between the Duggar kids getting no financial benefit at all from their exploitation, the whole Gosselin family mess, and Jacob Roloff being molested by a producer, I'm embarrassed that I ever watched anything on TLC. Certainly not viewing anything on that channel again. What a bunch of gross voyeurs that we all enabled.

+1 and developing a "let's save this series after one of the stars has been revealed as a molester" by having the victims do a special is just beyond. TLC producers had been in that home long enough to know that the daughters were not allowed to say no to the special and they exploited and benefited from that abusive culture.

I grew up in an environment adjacent to IBLP. I wasn't homeschooled, but attended a private Christian school that operated off of IBLP teachings and that had a lot of influence on my family and childhood.

This was really triggering and hard to watch.

Like the ex-IBLPers in the documentary, I managed to get out. Something in me said this wasn't the truth and I recognized the risks of staying in. I got myself into a university, built a career outside the church, walked away from religion, had a family. But still over 20 years later, there is a part of me that expects to be punished by god (a god I no longer believe in) for being "sinful" and I have an anxiety disorder as a result.

The fact that all of these messages were instilled in children during their most formative years is so, so damaging.

This documentary should of course be a warning about the impact of these people on the country. I remember being groomed to someday have influence in conservative politics - that's a very real aspect of it.

But it should also be a warning to all parents to be thoughtful about how and when you teach religion to children. There are a lot of religious teachings that young children aren't developmentally equipped to understand or that place children in unhealthy power structures like you see in this documentary and some of the other recent ones like the Hillsong documentary. I have no problem with my child learning about world religions and eventually choosing one as an adult if they'd like, but I will not be raising a child "in a religion."

Anonymous wrote:The hate, blanket statements, and stereotyping in this thread is horrifying. Scary to realize the lack of critical thinking among posters.

Blanket training is what is horrifying. Not blanket statements about blanket training being horrifying.

Anonymous wrote:The hate, blanket statements, and stereotyping in this thread is horrifying. Scary to realize the lack of critical thinking among posters.

Did you watch the show?

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about this family that makes you hate them so much?
Just don’t watch the show
There are plenty of weirdo’s

I don’t hate the family at all. I feel sorry for most of them (not Josh or Jim Bob though). And I feel scared about the ways the culture they endorse has the potential to injure people.

Michelle Duggar is complicit.

Yeah I can’t say I feel that sorry for Michelle either since she made the conscious choice to join the religion/ideology and fully advocated for a lot of the horrible decisions the fault made. I’m more conflicted about Anna (Josh’s wife): on one hand, her choices to keep having kids with Josh and letting her husband have access to his kids horrify me but on the other hand, she was raised in this group with the idea that she must submit to her husband and with 7 kids and limited options for taking care of them I do feel like she’s in a very difficult scenario.

I see Anna as complicit
She could have rebelled and gotten her tubes tied when the scandal broke, instead she fixes everything by having another baby

How would she support herself with that many kids and no education? Michelle made her choice and she's a leader in that community. The kids have been brainwashed and abused to comply.

Anonymous wrote:The hate, blanket statements, and stereotyping in this thread is horrifying. Scary to realize the lack of critical thinking among posters.

JimBob?

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about this family that makes you hate them so much?
Just don’t watch the show
There are plenty of weirdo’s

I don’t hate the family at all. I feel sorry for most of them (not Josh or Jim Bob though). And I feel scared about the ways the culture they endorse has the potential to injure people.

Michelle Duggar is complicit.

Yeah I can’t say I feel that sorry for Michelle either since she made the conscious choice to join the religion/ideology and fully advocated for a lot of the horrible decisions the fault made. I’m more conflicted about Anna (Josh’s wife): on one hand, her choices to keep having kids with Josh and letting her husband have access to his kids horrify me but on the other hand, she was raised in this group with the idea that she must submit to her husband and with 7 kids and limited options for taking care of them I do feel like she’s in a very difficult scenario.

I see Anna as complicit
She could have rebelled and gotten her tubes tied when the scandal broke, instead she fixes everything by having another baby

Anonymous wrote:The hate, blanket statements, and stereotyping in this thread is horrifying. Scary to realize the lack of critical thinking among posters.

Did you watch the same thing I did?

The hate, blanket statements, and stereotyping in this thread is horrifying. Scary to realize the lack of critical thinking among posters.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about this family that makes you hate them so much?
Just don’t watch the show
There are plenty of weirdo’s

I don’t hate the family at all. I feel sorry for most of them (not Josh or Jim Bob though). And I feel scared about the ways the culture they endorse has the potential to injure people.

Michelle Duggar is complicit.

Yeah I can’t say I feel that sorry for Michelle either since she made the conscious choice to join the religion/ideology and fully advocated for a lot of the horrible decisions the fault made. I’m more conflicted about Anna (Josh’s wife): on one hand, her choices to keep having kids with Josh and letting her husband have access to his kids horrify me but on the other hand, she was raised in this group with the idea that she must submit to her husband and with 7 kids and limited options for taking care of them I do feel like she’s in a very difficult scenario.