Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Wisconsh!t into what it's not : open minded, welcoming, exciting and suitable for vibrant human existence. Its basically lower Canada without the good Canadian public policies ( universal Healthcare, highly restricted access to guns etc )

Anonymous wrote:OP, Wisconsin is great. Winter is cold and long. A lot of people commenting have no idea what they are talking about. Why don't you use vacation time and go check it out?

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Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time, this is the story with places like Milwaukee, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, name the Rust Belt City:

- people will be nice to your face
- there will be areas where people from Ethiopia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo live if that's your thing
- yes, there are museums, NPR, a zoo, etc.

But the issue, is if it is one for you is that you will never be one of them. Want a job in Milwaukee? UW and Marquette grads will have the upper hand because companies hire their own kind. Unless you have a specific skill or were the person who grew up there, went to Harvard, then came back.

what does this mean?

It means social groups are well formed. Steve and Kell grew up in Milwaukee suburbs, met at UW, married and moved back to the same suburbs. Their friends are from the same circle and they have siblings living five miles away.

They'll wave and say good morning, but have plenty of friends. A newcomer on the other hand, doesn't have that social group. And when a good job opens up, guess who gets it? One of Steve or Kell's friends because they have known them forever.

Kell? I’m from Wisconsin, and I have never met anyone with that name. LOL. And if you are trying to implicitly argue that DC or anywhere on the East Coast is friendlier or more welcoming in any way, including to newcomers, that is even more hilarious.

Kell is short for Kelly.

Never heard that, and I am from Wisconsin with a cousin and several friends named Kelly.

She thinks she's very clever and smart. Let her have her moment

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Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time, this is the story with places like Milwaukee, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, name the Rust Belt City:

- people will be nice to your face
- there will be areas where people from Ethiopia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo live if that's your thing
- yes, there are museums, NPR, a zoo, etc.

But the issue, is if it is one for you is that you will never be one of them. Want a job in Milwaukee? UW and Marquette grads will have the upper hand because companies hire their own kind. Unless you have a specific skill or were the person who grew up there, went to Harvard, then came back.

what does this mean?

It means social groups are well formed. Steve and Kell grew up in Milwaukee suburbs, met at UW, married and moved back to the same suburbs. Their friends are from the same circle and they have siblings living five miles away.

They'll wave and say good morning, but have plenty of friends. A newcomer on the other hand, doesn't have that social group. And when a good job opens up, guess who gets it? One of Steve or Kell's friends because they have known them forever.

Are you implying that isn’t the case everywhere? It is.

There are some places more welcoming than others. I do think DC suburbs are more welcoming to newcomers than insular mid-western towns. Yes, there will be exceptions to that.

Anonymous wrote:People marry really young in midwest: marriage, kids, and a mortgage by 27 is common. People do start getting divorced in their 30s though so there might be a lot of eligible divorced.

Madison would be the exception to that tendency, due to the university.

How do you feel about endless grey skies, even in summer?

Anonymous wrote:If you like arctic weather from November into April-May, flat scenery with some lakes and rivers here and there, a lake that is relatively lifeless and too cold to swim in accept one month out of the year, horrible drivers, a lack of variety in the way of restaurants and fast food places with an over abundance of the most basic chains, and things to do that mostly involve hunting, snowmobiling and bar hopping, then you’ll love Wississippi.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a very boring place.

Bored people are boring people.

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Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time, this is the story with places like Milwaukee, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, name the Rust Belt City:

- people will be nice to your face
- there will be areas where people from Ethiopia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo live if that's your thing
- yes, there are museums, NPR, a zoo, etc.

But the issue, is if it is one for you is that you will never be one of them. Want a job in Milwaukee? UW and Marquette grads will have the upper hand because companies hire their own kind. Unless you have a specific skill or were the person who grew up there, went to Harvard, then came back.

what does this mean?

It means social groups are well formed. Steve and Kell grew up in Milwaukee suburbs, met at UW, married and moved back to the same suburbs. Their friends are from the same circle and they have siblings living five miles away.

They'll wave and say good morning, but have plenty of friends. A newcomer on the other hand, doesn't have that social group. And when a good job opens up, guess who gets it? One of Steve or Kell's friends because they have known them forever.

Are you implying that isn’t the case everywhere? It is.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a state that banned abortion even for rapt and incest

That's a result of extreme partisan gerrymandering that kept an 1849 law in place, not so much public opinion. Both the gerrymandering and abortion issues should hopefully be remedied as a result of the new State Supreme Court makeup (liberal challenger defeated conservative challenger by 11+ points in April, it's now 4-3 Lib).

No matter the reason, it is now the law of the land. I'd think twice before moving to any red state.

It is not a red state. It went for Biden by a large margin. The state government is the result of extreme gerrymandering that will change once the maps are redrawn soon. Also, the courts are expected to invalidate the abortion law, and the legislature can pass a new one, but Evers will veto it.

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Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time, this is the story with places like Milwaukee, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, name the Rust Belt City:

- people will be nice to your face
- there will be areas where people from Ethiopia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo live if that's your thing
- yes, there are museums, NPR, a zoo, etc.

But the issue, is if it is one for you is that you will never be one of them. Want a job in Milwaukee? UW and Marquette grads will have the upper hand because companies hire their own kind. Unless you have a specific skill or were the person who grew up there, went to Harvard, then came back.

what does this mean?

It means social groups are well formed. Steve and Kell grew up in Milwaukee suburbs, met at UW, married and moved back to the same suburbs. Their friends are from the same circle and they have siblings living five miles away.

They'll wave and say good morning, but have plenty of friends. A newcomer on the other hand, doesn't have that social group. And when a good job opens up, guess who gets it? One of Steve or Kell's friends because they have known them forever.

Are you implying that isn’t the case everywhere? It is.

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Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time, this is the story with places like Milwaukee, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, name the Rust Belt City:

- people will be nice to your face
- there will be areas where people from Ethiopia, Lebanon, Iraq, Congo live if that's your thing
- yes, there are museums, NPR, a zoo, etc.

But the issue, is if it is one for you is that you will never be one of them. Want a job in Milwaukee? UW and Marquette grads will have the upper hand because companies hire their own kind. Unless you have a specific skill or were the person who grew up there, went to Harvard, then came back.

what does this mean?

It means social groups are well formed. Steve and Kell grew up in Milwaukee suburbs, met at UW, married and moved back to the same suburbs. Their friends are from the same circle and they have siblings living five miles away.

They'll wave and say good morning, but have plenty of friends. A newcomer on the other hand, doesn't have that social group. And when a good job opens up, guess who gets it? One of Steve or Kell's friends because they have known them forever.