Yes, it is in poor taste.

I would not give my 12yo a glass or half a glass of champagne proactively. But I would let her try a sip of mine if she asked, and I would let her take communion in church (real wine).

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous question OP. Grow up. Be a real parent.

I don’t think it’s ridiculous. It’s not ridiculous at all in Europe! We are Jewish and recently started allowing our 13yo to partake in wine during Seder. Feel free to judge me to feel better about your rigid parenting.

Yes, 12 year olds celebrating with a glass of champagne is ridiculous in Europe. I cannot believe we have to have this conversation once a week.

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Anonymous wrote:I am italian and basically don’t drink. I only drink if there is something to celebrate or if I am going out (which happens maybe once a month).

No one in my family drank much except for my grandfathers that always had wine with meals. I did not grow up thinking alcohol was this amazing yet forbidden thing and never grew to like it. I could have alcohol anytime I wanted (wine and beer because I don’t think my family ever had hard liquor in the house). I remember drinking a beer with my dad once when I was 7 and getting very tipsy. It was never a big deal. I used to go clubbing a lot in Italy in high school and I would only get fruit juice at the bar (as did most of my girlfriend).

When I came to the US at 19 I was shocked with the level of drinking and how kids in my dorm would just drink to get drunk. I still don’t get it.

My husband (not Italian) drinks a lot more (almost every day I think). My kids have been able to try and taste wine and beer since they were little. If they ever ask for, I would pour them small glass and we probably have given them a little bit of champagne to cheer on special occasions. Definitely at 12, but we did it a lot younger too.

I still don’t get it. Everything in excess is bad for you.

BUT BUT BUT BUT we jut CANT let a 12 year old get the message that celebrations often involve alcohol!!!!

Why? This obsession with alcohol is so weird!
If it’s so bad why are the adults drinking in the first place? Why are setting such a “bad” examples telling kids that only when they are older they can do the “cool” things their parents do.

Don’t you see that by drinking yourself, but no lt allowing the kids to have a little here or there YOU are making it into a big deal?
Because I basically never drink, I doubt my kids will drink much growing up, but also they won’t think it’s such a big deal that only the grown ups can do if they have been kept away from it.

I don’t see many Italians with alcohol problems (I personally know none) and yet all these kids were exposed to wine, beer and champagne since they were little!

Sit in on a few Zoom AA meetings and listen to the stories people tell about when and how they started drinking before you do this.

Virtually every one I have ever heard involves alcohol served to kids under 16, often by parents (overtly—as you contemplate—or covertly, by ignoring it when someone else did it). Sometimes a lot younger.

Waiting until as late as possible to prime that pump is just common sense, esp with the stress these kids are under. It ain’t rocket science. Your kid isn’t Italian/French/whatever, no matter how much you wish they were.

Anonymous wrote:Too young. Don’t start the connection btw alcohol and celebration this young.

+1 Why start?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A glass of alcohol could very well make your child sick. Good way to start off your vacation, with alcohol poisoning. Great parenting!

GMAFB. One sip of champane does not cause alcohol poisoning.

I said a glass, idiot, not a sip.

It's not going to cause alcohol poisoning, stupid.

NP

Wow, you are truly ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A glass of alcohol could very well make your child sick. Good way to start off your vacation, with alcohol poisoning. Great parenting!

GMAFB. One sip of champane does not cause alcohol poisoning.

I said a glass, idiot, not a sip.

It's not going to cause alcohol poisoning, stupid.

NP

You are an effing moron.

Even a small amount of alcohol can cause alcohol poisoning in children. This can result in serious illness and sometimes death.

Children’s bodies absorb alcohol fast. This can occur in less than 30 minutes. Alcohol affects the central nervous system. Symptoms can include confusion, vomiting, and seizures. The child may have trouble breathing and flushed or pale skin. Alcohol reduces the gag reflex. This can cause choking. Alcohol may also cause low blood sugar in children. This can result in a coma from the alcohol or the low sugar.

Anonymous wrote:I am italian and basically don’t drink. I only drink if there is something to celebrate or if I am going out (which happens maybe once a month).

No one in my family drank much except for my grandfathers that always had wine with meals. I did not grow up thinking alcohol was this amazing yet forbidden thing and never grew to like it. I could have alcohol anytime I wanted (wine and beer because I don’t think my family ever had hard liquor in the house). I remember drinking a beer with my dad once when I was 7 and getting very tipsy. It was never a big deal. I used to go clubbing a lot in Italy in high school and I would only get fruit juice at the bar (as did most of my girlfriend).

When I came to the US at 19 I was shocked with the level of drinking and how kids in my dorm would just drink to get drunk. I still don’t get it.

My husband (not Italian) drinks a lot more (almost every day I think). My kids have been able to try and taste wine and beer since they were little. If they ever ask for, I would pour them small glass and we probably have given them a little bit of champagne to cheer on special occasions. Definitely at 12, but we did it a lot younger too.

I still don’t get it. Everything in excess is bad for you.

BUT BUT BUT BUT we jut CANT let a 12 year old get the message that celebrations often involve alcohol!!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A glass of alcohol could very well make your child sick. Good way to start off your vacation, with alcohol poisoning. Great parenting!

GMAFB. One sip of champane does not cause alcohol poisoning.

I said a glass, idiot, not a sip.

It's not going to cause alcohol poisoning, stupid.

NP

A full glass could definitely do that to a young child. Google it.

12 is too young - ask the hotel for a bottle of sparkling cider, I'm sure they'd be happy to provide.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A glass of alcohol could very well make your child sick. Good way to start off your vacation, with alcohol poisoning. Great parenting!

GMAFB. One sip of champane does not cause alcohol poisoning.

I said a glass, idiot, not a sip.

It's not going to cause alcohol poisoning, stupid.

NP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A glass of alcohol could very well make your child sick. Good way to start off your vacation, with alcohol poisoning. Great parenting!

GMAFB. One sip of champane does not cause alcohol poisoning.

I said a glass, idiot, not a sip.

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving the country for a very special vacation. The hotel provides a bottle of sparkling wine and we are considering allowing DD12 a small half glass to toast with us. Is this in poor taste?

I promise you your kid will grow up soon enough. You are signaling here that celebration necessarily involves alcohol. If this were a 16 year old, it would be one thing. If an 18 year old, wouldn’t even be a question. But 12 year old is sending the wrong message.

I am italian and basically don’t drink. I only drink if there is something to celebrate or if I am going out (which happens maybe once a month).

No one in my family drank much except for my grandfathers that always had wine with meals. I did not grow up thinking alcohol was this amazing yet forbidden thing and never grew to like it. I could have alcohol anytime I wanted (wine and beer because I don’t think my family ever had hard liquor in the house). I remember drinking a beer with my dad once when I was 7 and getting very tipsy. It was never a big deal. I used to go clubbing a lot in Italy in high school and I would only get fruit juice at the bar (as did most of my girlfriend).

When I came to the US at 19 I was shocked with the level of drinking and how kids in my dorm would just drink to get drunk. I still don’t get it.

My husband (not Italian) drinks a lot more (almost every day I think). My kids have been able to try and taste wine and beer since they were little. If they ever ask for, I would pour them small glass and we probably have given them a little bit of champagne to cheer on special occasions. Definitely at 12, but we did it a lot younger too.

I still don’t get it. Everything in excess is bad for you.