Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 12:19     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:Unless the child talks in a monologue then there was another student in dialogue. Why weren’t they both disciplined? This seems excessive toward one child. Also, the teacher needs to build in some positive behavior encouragement by saying after one week of end of the line, if you are quiet, we will revisit your line position. The punishment needs to fit the crime. The teacher spoke out of haste.



sometimes it is a monologue, and no one who the student is talking too...
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 11:48     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:Unless the child talks in a monologue then there was another student in dialogue. Why weren’t they both disciplined? This seems excessive toward one child. Also, the teacher needs to build in some positive behavior encouragement by saying after one week of end of the line, if you are quiet, we will revisit your line position. The punishment needs to fit the crime. The teacher spoke out of haste.


Maybe they were disciplined and learned their lesson, but OP’s child keeps talking despite what I am sure are hundreds of warnings. Or maybe they were made to always be at the front of the line because the teacher had to separate them. We just don’t know this information.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 11:42     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:Unless the child talks in a monologue then there was another student in dialogue. Why weren’t they both disciplined? This seems excessive toward one child. Also, the teacher needs to build in some positive behavior encouragement by saying after one week of end of the line, if you are quiet, we will revisit your line position. The punishment needs to fit the crime. The teacher spoke out of haste.


Lots of children talk to others with no response or a very quiet response. The child could have been talking to the group as a whole or turning around to talk to another kid. Also, could have been stepping back to talk to a friend. All sorts of possibilities.

The teacher might have just spoken to the child a moment before and asked the child to stay in line and quit chatting. The child might have been talking to a kid from another class passing in the hall.

This is not a big deal. But, the opportunity is here for the child to learn a lesson. The teacher is not likely to have done this without cause. And, if she did, well, that is a different life's lesson.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 10:54     Subject: Re:Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Feedback is a gift OP.

Call it a life lesson and frame it as a life lesson. When you repeatedly need to be told the same thing over and over, the teacher won't like you and then you will not get the benefit of the doubt because teachers are human.

Don't protect them from every thing. Life isn't 100 percent fair all the time. Does it suck the teacher framed it that way and it made her feel bad? Sure. Did your kid play a role? Yes. So help them figure out how to avoid it next time.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:53     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Unless the child talks in a monologue then there was another student in dialogue. Why weren’t they both disciplined? This seems excessive toward one child. Also, the teacher needs to build in some positive behavior encouragement by saying after one week of end of the line, if you are quiet, we will revisit your line position. The punishment needs to fit the crime. The teacher spoke out of haste.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:48     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you properly parent your child and support the teacher in this, the child likely wouldn't have to be at the end of the line. Talk to you child about expectations and how they need to listen to their teachers. Don't undermine the teacher!


How about telling the parents in the first place that there was even a problem. The only lesson a teacher should teach your child is a lesson plan.


Maybe they did. Is the teacher supposed to give the lesson over 30 screaming children?
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:46     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it appropriate for an educator to tell an elementary school child to walk at the end of the line for the final quarter of school because they are sick of telling them to stop talking in line?



I do not like that the teacher went out of her way to embarrass a child with a punishment that she deemed humiliating


This is everything that’s wrong with this country. Your kid should be able to disturb everyone else in the school and not follow directions. There should be no consequences! Listen, this isn’t humiliating, it’s practical. Your DD won’t shut shut up. Other kids need to learn.


No one said there shouldn't be consequences. But I think saying "I'm sick of telling you to stop talking -- back of the line" is a harsh way to frame it for a little kid. Sounds to me like the teacher lost their temper and that's the issue, not the punishment itself.


“Sounds like”…from what?
The OP posted no details implying this happened.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:42     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you properly parent your child and support the teacher in this, the child likely wouldn't have to be at the end of the line. Talk to you child about expectations and how they need to listen to their teachers. Don't undermine the teacher!


How about telling the parents in the first place that there was even a problem. The only lesson a teacher should teach your child is a lesson plan.


The teacher would never have time to teach, plan, grade, go to meetings etc. If your kid cannot follow a simple direction, you probably already know that.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:35     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you properly parent your child and support the teacher in this, the child likely wouldn't have to be at the end of the line. Talk to you child about expectations and how they need to listen to their teachers. Don't undermine the teacher!


How about telling the parents in the first place that there was even a problem. The only lesson a teacher should teach your child is a lesson plan.


I suspect the parent did know there was a problem....
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:32     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:If you properly parent your child and support the teacher in this, the child likely wouldn't have to be at the end of the line. Talk to you child about expectations and how they need to listen to their teachers. Don't undermine the teacher!


How about telling the parents in the first place that there was even a problem. The only lesson a teacher should teach your child is a lesson plan.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:19     Subject: Re:Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

This thread just might win the "DCUM Mom" award....
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 09:02     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

If you properly parent your child and support the teacher in this, the child likely wouldn't have to be at the end of the line. Talk to you child about expectations and how they need to listen to their teachers. Don't undermine the teacher!
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 08:58     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it appropriate for an educator to tell an elementary school child to walk at the end of the line for the final quarter of school because they are sick of telling them to stop talking in line?



I do not like that the teacher went out of her way to embarrass a child with a punishment that she deemed humiliating


This is everything that’s wrong with this country. Your kid should be able to disturb everyone else in the school and not follow directions. There should be no consequences! Listen, this isn’t humiliating, it’s practical. Your DD won’t shut shut up. Other kids need to learn.


No one said there shouldn't be consequences. But I think saying "I'm sick of telling you to stop talking -- back of the line" is a harsh way to frame it for a little kid. Sounds to me like the teacher lost their temper and that's the issue, not the punishment itself.


Teachers are human. This is a reasonable "natural consequence" of the child's actions.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 08:55     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it appropriate for an educator to tell an elementary school child to walk at the end of the line for the final quarter of school because they are sick of telling them to stop talking in line?



I do not like that the teacher went out of her way to embarrass a child with a punishment that she deemed humiliating


This is everything that’s wrong with this country. Your kid should be able to disturb everyone else in the school and not follow directions. There should be no consequences! Listen, this isn’t humiliating, it’s practical. Your DD won’t shut shut up. Other kids need to learn.


No one said there shouldn't be consequences. But I think saying "I'm sick of telling you to stop talking -- back of the line" is a harsh way to frame it for a little kid. Sounds to me like the teacher lost their temper and that's the issue, not the punishment itself.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 08:54     Subject: Child told to walk last in line for final quarter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it appropriate for an educator to tell an elementary school child to walk at the end of the line for the final quarter of school because they are sick of telling them to stop talking in line?



I do not like that the teacher went out of her way to embarrass a child with a punishment that she deemed humiliating
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