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Anonymous wrote:There are regular, normal dog owners. And there are nutty "dog moms" who think other people are crazy for not loving their dog, and disregard other people's apprehensions about their dog, and think their dog's feelings should be considered in public.

Case in point: went to a public hearing last week, and a woman was massively PO-ed about changes to a dog park. Namely, moving a path to make it ADA accessible, but it meant that the path would go alongside a fence of the dog park. The woman was irritated that children walking on the new ADA path location would rile up dogs.

If you think the world needs to cater to your dog, then you're a nutso dog mom. If your dog can't handle being in a public park with people and kids around, then that's your problem.

And of course, she was letting her furbaby go up to anyone and everyone without concern for others.

Some kids are not friendly to dogs so maybe she had a bad experience with a bad kid/parents mistreating her dog.

Dogs are far far harder than kids. I wish someone told me before we got one. My kids are so much easier even when they are difficult.

Sleep training, dealing with friendships, learning to read and reason, teaching values and exploring other cultures, becoming independent adults and seeing them thrive. You think all of that is easier than house training a dog and taking it for walks? How is it easier than raising a child?

Kids grow up. Can cook, shower and do other things. Dog is never independent and cannot stay home alone more than a few hours, needs fed, constant attention, etc. cuddling with me now. Refuses to be or sleep alone.

NP. I get this, but don't think it means kids are easier. Dogs are the same level of dependent on you their entire lives, and after the puppy phase, caring for a dog is the same for years and years. Sometimes caring for a very dependent creatures is easier than caring for an independent creature. Like my 6 yr old can brush her teeth and dress herself, but often simply does not want to and doesn't care that I'm legally required to deliver her to school by 9am every morning. So even though she's more independent than my dog is, my morning routine with my 6 year old child is significantly harder than my morning routine with my 9 year old dog, who just wants to go outside and pee, eat some kibble, and then find a sunny place to lie down. Every morning. For years.

Yes, the dog is dependent on me and doesn't go to school for 7 hours a day. But she asks me for so little. Some ear scratches and a walk (which I enjoy anyway). Basic companionship and a little tenderness. Meanwhile, my 6 yr old is going to come home and ask for 47 snacks between 4pm and 5:30pm, complain that a dinner she's happily eaten dozens of times in the past is "disgusting" and then beg me to read her 32 books before she goes to sleep. And after she goes to sleep I will spend another hour doing stuff on her behalf, like completing camp paperwork, ordering her new bathing suits because she outgrew all the old ones in the last month, doing her laundry, and reading a parenting book because she's really struggled with the transition to elementary school and I'm looking for tools to help as we get ready for 1st grade next year.

No dog has ever demanded as much from their caretaker as the average human child in the modern era. This is one of the things I love about having a dog, I can't imagine trying to argue that having a dog is as hard as being a parent to a human. I am so glad it is not!

(standard caveat: please understand I love my dog and my human child both very much and would not trade either of them for all the money in the world, my complaints about parenting are not to be taken as an indication I don't love my child or am not happy to do these things)

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

DP. I think the “insecure” part comes from women whose identities are so wrapped up in motherhood that they see pet owners referring to themselves as “dog moms” is somehow minimizing the sacrifices of motherhood.

Lol. No. It’s just weird to call yourself a dog mom. It sounds desperate and childish. I thought that before kids too. It’s super cringe.

What’s desperate is the gatekeeping by insecure mothers of human children. It doesn’t affect your life WHATSOEVER and it will not change, so cope.

Congrats, you had a kid. So did millions (billions) of women through history. The only people who care or think that’s special are your spouse and your kids.

So here’s the truth. I don’t think I’m special because I have a kid. I don’t think it’s this great feat to be a parent. But it is absolutely different than caring for a pet. That adamant nature of your post shows that you really don’t understand that. And that’s OK.

Also no nerves were touched.

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Anonymous wrote:There are regular, normal dog owners. And there are nutty "dog moms" who think other people are crazy for not loving their dog, and disregard other people's apprehensions about their dog, and think their dog's feelings should be considered in public.

Case in point: went to a public hearing last week, and a woman was massively PO-ed about changes to a dog park. Namely, moving a path to make it ADA accessible, but it meant that the path would go alongside a fence of the dog park. The woman was irritated that children walking on the new ADA path location would rile up dogs.

If you think the world needs to cater to your dog, then you're a nutso dog mom. If your dog can't handle being in a public park with people and kids around, then that's your problem.

And of course, she was letting her furbaby go up to anyone and everyone without concern for others.

Some kids are not friendly to dogs so maybe she had a bad experience with a bad kid/parents mistreating her dog.

Dogs are far far harder than kids. I wish someone told me before we got one. My kids are so much easier even when they are difficult.

Sleep training, dealing with friendships, learning to read and reason, teaching values and exploring other cultures, becoming independent adults and seeing them thrive. You think all of that is easier than house training a dog and taking it for walks? How is it easier than raising a child?

Kids grow up. Can cook, shower and do other things. Dog is never independent and cannot stay home alone more than a few hours, needs fed, constant attention, etc. cuddling with me now. Refuses to be or sleep alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

DP. I think the “insecure” part comes from women whose identities are so wrapped up in motherhood that they see pet owners referring to themselves as “dog moms” is somehow minimizing the sacrifices of motherhood.

Lol. No. It’s just weird to call yourself a dog mom. It sounds desperate and childish. I thought that before kids too. It’s super cringe.

What’s desperate is the gatekeeping by insecure mothers of human children. It doesn’t affect your life WHATSOEVER and it will not change, so cope.

Congrats, you had a kid. So did millions (billions) of women through history. The only people who care or think that’s special are your spouse and your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are obsessed with their pets often talk about them way too much and it’s boring as hell. No one wants to hear about your dogs health issues or stories you find cute.

Same energy over here for the boring stories about your kids.

Exactly.

mom of multiple kids and zero dogs

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

I said insecure, not jealous.

Well-adjusted, secure people aren’t bothered by such minutiae in someone else’s life that has literally no affect on yours. I think some—not all—mothers are insecure about the choices they made. Raising children is difficult, and some of you have a constant need for recognition and approval. So much so that you get bothered by dog-owning women getting the same.

If you don’t believe me, just wait for the, “Mother’s Day is my day!!” posts from women complaining about dog-owning women receiving the same good-will message. That’s nothing but insecurity.

It’s, of course, fine to think it’s silly to call yourself a dog mom (Hell, I don’t do it!), but the complaining about it you guys do is really telling.

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DP - I'm far from insecure and if someone wants to call themselves a dog mom, that's their choice.

My point is parenting a human child is a far different experience than having and loving a pet. Words can't describe it.

It's a (human) mom thing, you wouldn't understand.

Yeah. You sound super secure.

I guess I touched a nerve.

[PP]

*applause*

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

Congratulations, you just made yourself Exhibit A.

Reread the bolded, as many times as you need to, for comprehension this time.

Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

+1,000,000

Oh, God, OP. Way to smack the hornets’ nest two weeks before Mother’s Day. Pass the popcorn.

Because they’re pathetically, desperately insecure and have a sixth grade level need to have alllll the attention (of the entire world apparently, not just their own family) on them.

Laugh, pity them and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:There are regular, normal dog owners. And there are nutty "dog moms" who think other people are crazy for not loving their dog, and disregard other people's apprehensions about their dog, and think their dog's feelings should be considered in public.

Case in point: went to a public hearing last week, and a woman was massively PO-ed about changes to a dog park. Namely, moving a path to make it ADA accessible, but it meant that the path would go alongside a fence of the dog park. The woman was irritated that children walking on the new ADA path location would rile up dogs.

If you think the world needs to cater to your dog, then you're a nutso dog mom. If your dog can't handle being in a public park with people and kids around, then that's your problem.

And of course, she was letting her furbaby go up to anyone and everyone without concern for others.

Some kids are not friendly to dogs so maybe she had a bad experience with a bad kid/parents mistreating her dog.

Dogs are far far harder than kids. I wish someone told me before we got one. My kids are so much easier even when they are difficult.

Sleep training, dealing with friendships, learning to read and reason, teaching values and exploring other cultures, becoming independent adults and seeing them thrive. You think all of that is easier than house training a dog and taking it for walks? How is it easier than raising a child?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

DP. I think the “insecure” part comes from women whose identities are so wrapped up in motherhood that they see pet owners referring to themselves as “dog moms” is somehow minimizing the sacrifices of motherhood.

Lol. No. It’s just weird to call yourself a dog mom. It sounds desperate and childish. I thought that before kids too. It’s super cringe.

I don’t think most people are? I think it’s more a pity feeling than “upset”

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

DP. I think the “insecure” part comes from women whose identities are so wrapped up in motherhood that they see pet owners referring to themselves as “dog moms” is somehow minimizing the sacrifices of motherhood.

^ Nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, yes…the quarterly whining of insecure DCUM moms. I always enjoy this.

Here, let me get under your skin a little bit more. There absolutely are similarities between raising a puppy and raising a child. They are not identical experiences, but there are similarities. Some things are harder with puppies (puppies are mobile right away), while some things are easier with puppies (you can leave puppies alone right away).

The only reason a mother would be bothered by someone else treating their dog as a child—whatever that might mean to you—is insecurity. If you are truly happy with your choices to parent children, this wouldn’t be a blip on your radar.

(Also, 16:47 PP, not all parents birth their children.)

I can’t wait for the Mother’s Day version of this post. 😆😆

[dog-owning NP who doesn’t use the expression dog mom, but who recognizes and respects different choices]

LMAO can you please explain what insecurity could possibly exist? “I am unable to be a dog mom as well, insecurity?” “I wouldn’t be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of a child, insecurity?” “This person takes care of a dog better than I take care of a child, insecurity?”

All of these seem nonsensical, so please, explain yourself.

DP. I think the “insecure” part comes from women whose identities are so wrapped up in motherhood that they see pet owners referring to themselves as “dog moms” is somehow minimizing the sacrifices of motherhood.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are obsessed with their pets often talk about them way too much and it’s boring as hell. No one wants to hear about your dogs health issues or stories you find cute.

This applies to pets and humans. I also don't want to hear all your crap about your kids.

Yes! I actually don't mind the dog moms. It's like 5 minutes before moving on to other topics. I'd prefer that to a two hour lunch where a mom can't talk about anything but her kids. When I'm socializing I don't want to talk about my kids!