Anonymous
05/15/2023 17:42
Subject: Re:Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is making these kids come to school. Read the post above from the teacher in Baltimore City. Hold these kids back and they still won’t come to school. Some kids miss two or three days a week without blinking an eye. No one at home prioritizes them attending school. So if you hold them back they still won’t learn because they don’t come to school.
Unless we could actually hold parents/families accountable for their children attending school (which I’m actually all for as a teacher), holding kids back won’t solve any problems.
Baltimore teacher again. When you read about Baltimore students in the news who are in 9th grade but read on a third grade level, the vast majority of them have had serious chronic absentee issues since pre-k or kindergarten. I have a meeting for a student this afternoon who has missed 60+ days of kindergarten and has been late (hours late) over 70 times. Parent claims her child doesn’t like waking up early. Most of my parent teacher conferences end up as parenting sessions. Parents don’t want to make their kids do anything (go to bed, go to school, do homework, brush their teeth, etc) because it creates tension and it’s just easier to let them do what they want.
Why the heck isn’t CPS involved in those cases? How can the kids remain with the parent? I don’t get it. Meanwhile us normal people need to fear taking our kids to the damn ER if siblings were roughhousing and someone breaks a bone because we’ve all heard horror stories about CPS doing investigations to rule out neglect in cases where kids get hurt as part of normal childhood. It’s so frustrating.
You think a child and his mother should be separated because the mom doesn't have parenting skills?
NP and I don’t think the kid and parent should be separated. I also don’t think expecting a kid to attend school regularly is a ‘parenting skill’. This isn’t like educating a parent on how much screen time a kid should have. Everyone knows kids are expected to go to school. These parents know too.
Anonymous
05/15/2023 15:03
Subject: Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Parents are also functionally illiterate. Therefore their children can't read either. If you fail kids or have them repeat a grade remotely, you will remove mainly Blacks and Hispanic kids from the classroom.
Anonymous
05/15/2023 14:57
Subject: Re:Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is making these kids come to school. Read the post above from the teacher in Baltimore City. Hold these kids back and they still won’t come to school. Some kids miss two or three days a week without blinking an eye. No one at home prioritizes them attending school. So if you hold them back they still won’t learn because they don’t come to school.
Unless we could actually hold parents/families accountable for their children attending school (which I’m actually all for as a teacher), holding kids back won’t solve any problems.
Baltimore teacher again. When you read about Baltimore students in the news who are in 9th grade but read on a third grade level, the vast majority of them have had serious chronic absentee issues since pre-k or kindergarten. I have a meeting for a student this afternoon who has missed 60+ days of kindergarten and has been late (hours late) over 70 times. Parent claims her child doesn’t like waking up early. Most of my parent teacher conferences end up as parenting sessions. Parents don’t want to make their kids do anything (go to bed, go to school, do homework, brush their teeth, etc) because it creates tension and it’s just easier to let them do what they want.
Why the heck isn’t CPS involved in those cases? How can the kids remain with the parent? I don’t get it. Meanwhile us normal people need to fear taking our kids to the damn ER if siblings were roughhousing and someone breaks a bone because we’ve all heard horror stories about CPS doing investigations to rule out neglect in cases where kids get hurt as part of normal childhood. It’s so frustrating.
You think a child and his mother should be separated because the mom doesn't have parenting skills?
Anonymous
05/15/2023 14:41
Subject: Re:Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Anonymous wrote:Viewed through the lens of racial and socioeconomic justice, it would be immensely harmful to hold a student back, simply for an academic deficiency.
Because sending them into the world with no skills and telling them and their parents a lie is "justice"?
Anonymous
05/11/2023 12:33
Subject: Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Been there, happens way too much as teachers are pressured to fraud and then bullied over it. Also fired over it. But classes get tougher and tougher with behavior bc all the kids are entitled for an A with no work and they will mess with teachers over it and admin let's it go on and on. Teachers are leaving and not returning due to this dynamic.its the new standard.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 23:41
Subject: Re:Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
Anonymous wrote:Making the legal drop out age 18 was a horrible idea. By 15-16 school should be the kids who want to be there. Drop out age should be 16
16 is the dropout age in VA, and in a bunch of other states.