Anonymous
Post 04/18/2023 11:30     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:OP never says that the teacher agreed to re-grade the work. Kids were permitted to resubmit. I guess everyone is assuming that meant it got re-graded but now here does OP ever state that was anything more than an assumption- and an apparently a mistaken one.


It is very clear that if the teacher permitted resubmissions that it was to improve the grade. Otherwise there is no point. If the teacher encouraged resubmissions but never had any intention of grading them then that’s even worse and the parent has even more grounds to complain.


I don’t think that’s clear at all. The teacher may have agreed to resubmissions for feedback purposes but not to improve a grade. That happens all the time.

I totally get being concerned - especially when an A student fails on a major assignment. I’d certainly want to talk to the teacher. But unless the assignment was eligible for resubmission for a higher grade, that the teacher didn’t change the grade is not a legitimate concern. And many people have asked this question directly and OP has not answered, which speaks volumes.


OP here - I haven't answered because I am not on this forum during weekends! Yes she was asked to re-submit for regrading.
I know it is middle school but my DD wants to go to magnet program in high school (in her sisters footsteps) and yes grades matter as MCPS has switched over to relying exclusively on grades and MAP scores for magnet selection! So this teacher might be ruining her chance of getting into magnet program.


Parents frequently request resubmission on the grounds that even if the grade can’t be improved, the student could benefit from feedback. Before the grading policy allowed multiple redo attempts, I allowed resubmission a second or even third time for feedback only. I stopped once MCPS changed the reassessment policy because suddenly, we were in this murky ground where I thought a particular resubmission was for feedback, but parents thought it was for credit. Even when I specified in advance, I’m just giving feedback on this, later the demand was to increase the grade. I’m all for maximizing grades, but work redone at home a third time several weeks after the initial assessment and dramatically improved sometimes hints at the hand of a parent or tutor. Now I stick with one redo, under my supervision. Per MCPS policy, it can only help, not hurt.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2023 10:05     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We had a teacher who pulled this BS...waiting until the last second to grade and update and finalize grades before there is any chance to talk to the teacher. Lots of parents experienced the same thing with this teacher. We all complained and argued to the principal. Grades were adjusted.


"Pulled that bs"-yeah, okay. The work your kid turns in? That is indicative of what they know about a subject. If your kid knew the content, this would be a non-issue. Encourage them to...study. Stop blaming everyone else. I wouldn't brag about a principal kowtowing to MoCo parents...it's what they do to survive.

If the directions are ambiguous, it's entirely possible that a student knows the material - knows it well, even - but that the rubric sucks.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 23:01     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of teacher replying obv.

The teacher said she could resubmit for a better grade. The teacher then did not grade it. The teacher gave an otherwise A student a FIFTY.

This really is not fair to your kid. I think you should escalate and ask for the assignment to be regraded as promised and ask for feedback as to why she got a fifty in the first place.


Agree. OP you need to escalate this.


Yeah, no. No where in this post does it say the teacher agreed to change the grade if re-submitted. "This is an easy subject for her but my DD followed up with the teacher and asked for feedback for the big project and was told that she had only 50% and was given some pointers to improve her project (again grading rubric wasn't clear), so she reworked it and submitted again. The teacher ignores the rework she re-did and gives her a original 50% grade on the very last day of the quarter which pulled her grade to a very low B ."

Teacher offered feedback to improve..for future assignments. This is so painfully clear that it's truly amazing people aren't seeing that. The student was not promised a potentially better grade. OP is a prime example of the BS teachers have to deal with on a daily basis because they simply refuse to comprehend things.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 22:56     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:We had a teacher who pulled this BS...waiting until the last second to grade and update and finalize grades before there is any chance to talk to the teacher. Lots of parents experienced the same thing with this teacher. We all complained and argued to the principal. Grades were adjusted.


"Pulled that bs"-yeah, okay. The work your kid turns in? That is indicative of what they know about a subject. If your kid knew the content, this would be a non-issue. Encourage them to...study. Stop blaming everyone else. I wouldn't brag about a principal kowtowing to MoCo parents...it's what they do to survive.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 22:37     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:Lots of teacher replying obv.

The teacher said she could resubmit for a better grade. The teacher then did not grade it. The teacher gave an otherwise A student a FIFTY.

This really is not fair to your kid. I think you should escalate and ask for the assignment to be regraded as promised and ask for feedback as to why she got a fifty in the first place.


Agree. OP you need to escalate this.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 20:59     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:We had a teacher who pulled this BS...waiting until the last second to grade and update and finalize grades before there is any chance to talk to the teacher. Lots of parents experienced the same thing with this teacher. We all complained and argued to the principal. Grades were adjusted.



How is ot BS when the grades are submitted during the marking period?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 20:54     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
This is note of support to OP and the DD for putting in the effort to learn the material and do the work and earn the grade, despite too many people tin thread treating grades like a competitive game with arbitrary rules and a sports time clock.

Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 19:11     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Lots of teacher replying obv.

The teacher said she could resubmit for a better grade. The teacher then did not grade it. The teacher gave an otherwise A student a FIFTY.

This really is not fair to your kid. I think you should escalate and ask for the assignment to be regraded as promised and ask for feedback as to why she got a fifty in the first place.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 19:07     Subject: Re:DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
And this is why teachers are 'lazy' graders. They aren't 'lazy' because they are eating bon bons. They are covering classes because there aren't enough subs. They are responding to all of the parents who are emailing as why their child has a B. They are calling/emailing/texting parents of students who are failing. They are grading assignments multiple times because students and parents expect As on everything. So, if you are going to email their principal about why they didn't grade the assignment twice, then also email the principal to ask what they are doing to ensure that teachers have enough time in their day to do all of these things.




Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 18:41     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
We had a teacher who pulled this BS...waiting until the last second to grade and update and finalize grades before there is any chance to talk to the teacher. Lots of parents experienced the same thing with this teacher. We all complained and argued to the principal. Grades were adjusted.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 18:35     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry if it’s already been stated I haven’t read the responses
There are teachers like that always
The worst part is that some are in HS jeopardizing their students’ college chances
I would recommend following up with the teacher at the first sign of their nonresponsiveness - when it becomes clear she is a lazy grader and doesn’t respond to follow ups
It doesn’t matter in MS and maybe it’s even good for your kid to get a B and discover that the sky didn’t fall -but in HS I recommend requesting an appointment with the teacher and asking very nice and respectable but very detailed questions about the assignment and why it was graded like this and how it’s so important to your child to have timely feedback and how upset your child is etc etc
The teacher will roll their eyes but won’t mess with your child’s grade if it brings down the overall grade.
You don’t do anything disrespectful to the teacher but the teacher knows you have your child’s back


I laughed at that. Do you think the teacher won't give a bad grade if that's what was earned?

Op, please answer whether or not the redo was requested or otherwise agreed to.





She already said that it was!!!


OP has never answered whether the teacher agree that it would be eligible for a higher grade.


I think some are assuming that because the teacher told her what was wrong, that it could be resubmitted and be regraded.


Read OP at 4/14 11:22


OP never says that the teacher agreed to re-grade the work. Kids were permitted to resubmit. I guess everyone is assuming that meant it got re-graded but now here does OP ever state that was anything more than an assumption- and an apparently a mistaken one.


It is very clear that if the teacher permitted resubmissions that it was to improve the grade. Otherwise there is no point. If the teacher encouraged resubmissions but never had any intention of grading them then that’s even worse and the parent has even more grounds to complain.


I don’t think that’s clear at all. The teacher may have agreed to resubmissions for feedback purposes but not to improve a grade. That happens all the time.

I totally get being concerned - especially when an A student fails on a major assignment. I’d certainly want to talk to the teacher. But unless the assignment was eligible for resubmission for a higher grade, that the teacher didn’t change the grade is not a legitimate concern. And many people have asked this question directly and OP has not answered, which speaks volumes.


I have two kids in MCPS. One in middle school and one in high school. No this does not happen “all the time”. No teacher has ever suggested that a child resubmit an assignment “for feedback purposes”. What a waste of time. This simply doesn’t happen. OP, there are some nasty, delusional people in this thread. You should absolutely escalate if the teacher won’t respond to your request to help understand what happened. (And I say this as a parent who has never reached out to any teachers about a grade).


Hmmm. I guess because you have two kids out of the 160,000 in MCPS you know everything.


Well I clearly know more than the poster who claimed that teachers encourage resubmission “all the time” “for feedback purposes”. And no one has jumped up and agreed that this “happens all the time” or even ever.


+1 Never seen it happen. I have 2 kids in middle and high also.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 15:38     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP never says that the teacher agreed to re-grade the work. Kids were permitted to resubmit. I guess everyone is assuming that meant it got re-graded but now here does OP ever state that was anything more than an assumption- and an apparently a mistaken one.


It is very clear that if the teacher permitted resubmissions that it was to improve the grade. Otherwise there is no point. If the teacher encouraged resubmissions but never had any intention of grading them then that’s even worse and the parent has even more grounds to complain.


I don’t think that’s clear at all. The teacher may have agreed to resubmissions for feedback purposes but not to improve a grade. That happens all the time.

I totally get being concerned - especially when an A student fails on a major assignment. I’d certainly want to talk to the teacher. But unless the assignment was eligible for resubmission for a higher grade, that the teacher didn’t change the grade is not a legitimate concern. And many people have asked this question directly and OP has not answered, which speaks volumes.


OP here - I haven't answered because I am not on this forum during weekends! Yes she was asked to re-submit for regrading.
I know it is middle school but my DD wants to go to magnet program in high school (in her sisters footsteps) and yes grades matter as MCPS has switched over to relying exclusively on grades and MAP scores for magnet selection! So this teacher might be ruining her chance of getting into magnet program.


One B is not going to ruin anything. Please, you will give your daughter lifetime anxiety about everything related to school. I really highly doubt that it was actually resubmitted for grading and the teacher said they didn't have time. Do you have that in writing? Otherwise, it's her word against the teacher and everyone else in the classes. I feel terrible for your daughter with you going on and on about this. Lesson learned. Pay attention the first time and ask questions. Redos are never guaranteed. Important life lesson.


One B in one marking period actually did mess my kid up for magnet purposes in mcps. Most of the time it wouldn’t matter. But in certain subjects and certain marking periods, mcps totally gatekeeps certain opportunities based on one data point.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 15:19     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:OP never says that the teacher agreed to re-grade the work. Kids were permitted to resubmit. I guess everyone is assuming that meant it got re-graded but now here does OP ever state that was anything more than an assumption- and an apparently a mistaken one.


It is very clear that if the teacher permitted resubmissions that it was to improve the grade. Otherwise there is no point. If the teacher encouraged resubmissions but never had any intention of grading them then that’s even worse and the parent has even more grounds to complain.


I don’t think that’s clear at all. The teacher may have agreed to resubmissions for feedback purposes but not to improve a grade. That happens all the time.

I totally get being concerned - especially when an A student fails on a major assignment. I’d certainly want to talk to the teacher. But unless the assignment was eligible for resubmission for a higher grade, that the teacher didn’t change the grade is not a legitimate concern. And many people have asked this question directly and OP has not answered, which speaks volumes.


OP here - I haven't answered because I am not on this forum during weekends! Yes she was asked to re-submit for regrading.
I know it is middle school but my DD wants to go to magnet program in high school (in her sisters footsteps) and yes grades matter as MCPS has switched over to relying exclusively on grades and MAP scores for magnet selection! So this teacher might be ruining her chance of getting into magnet program.


One B is not going to ruin anything. Please, you will give your daughter lifetime anxiety about everything related to school. I really highly doubt that it was actually resubmitted for grading and the teacher said they didn't have time. Do you have that in writing? Otherwise, it's her word against the teacher and everyone else in the classes. I feel terrible for your daughter with you going on and on about this. Lesson learned. Pay attention the first time and ask questions. Redos are never guaranteed. Important life lesson.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 15:15     Subject: DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a great lesson for your DD and at just the right time—before she’s stuck with them for college admissions. I’d drop the battle against the teacher/school and stick to the learning moments like asking clarifying questions about rubrics BEFORE you turn in work, doing your best work the first time, getting confirmation that resubmissions will be accepted… all so helpful for your DD to learn at this very moment. She is lucky the lesson is arriving right on time.



This. If you accept this situation as a learning one, your kid will be much better off in the long run.


Unfortunately I think OP has instead daughter her kid that this was an unusual and unjust situation which will hinder her kid’s ability to really internalize the important lessons she should be learning from this situation. Unfortunate.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2023 14:49     Subject: Re:DD grade pulled down by a grade that was entered last day of the marking period!
There are teachers like that always
The worst part is that some are in HS jeopardizing their students’ college chances
I would recommend following up with the teacher at the first sign of their nonresponsiveness - when it becomes clear she is a lazy grader and doesn’t respond to follow ups
It doesn’t matter in MS and maybe it’s even good for your kid to get a B and discover that the sky didn’t fall -but in HS


Totally agree with this.