Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:18     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


None of that is true (and it's hilarious that you think "paying utilities" has any sort of significance.


That's all that is required in many places. How do you think renters vote?
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:17     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

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Anonymous wrote:College students should vote absentee with parents’ address. That’s what my DD does for every election.


I lived in my home state for 2 months in freshman year and then for 1-2 weeks over winter break. Aside, I stayed in the state where my college was located year-round because I got jobs/internships. I was way more invested in the state where my college was located. I had no idea what was happening back home when it came to local elections.

Just saying.


Then change your license.

What's that, you say? You don't have a permanent address in the state in which your college is located?

Oh.

- A democrat


An off-campus rental is a permanent address.


Great. Then change your address, get a license in that state, and vote there. It's not that difficult.


I just need a lease and utility bill.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:14     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

They are trying to keep Red states Red for the sake of number of Senators and Electoral College votes.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:14     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


+1 Too easy to vote twice in this country.


No, it's not and few people do it. The most recent examples have trended that these are GOP voters.


Actually, both sides do it.


Please provide your cites for the both sides claim. I have done so for GOP.


Philadelphia. Long tradition of it. Only the naive or willfully ignorant deny it.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:07     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.


The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?

NJ/NY, much like DC/MD/VA have reciprocity agreements for tax.

No one said that they can vote in two places, but that if they are living and paying taxes in the state, then they should be able to vote.

Also, your LLP is filing corporate tax, not personal income tax.

-LLC owner
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:06     Subject: Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:Several Republican controlled state legislatures are trying to limit college students’ right to vote by enacting/trying to enact laws that don’t recognize college issued student ID cards for voting purposes. In light of this and increased restrictions on abortions, should out of state parents and students opt out of colleges in such states?


Yes. Please do.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:06     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.


The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?

NJ/NY, much like DC/MD/VA have reciprocity agreements for tax.

No one said that they can vote in two places, but that if they are living and paying taxes in the state, then they should be able to vote.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:06     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

People who live at their parents’ house & don’t work can vote as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 15:03     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


None of that is true (and it's hilarious that you think "paying utilities" has any sort of significance.


Renters are allowed to vote, dumbo.


Of course they are - if that's their permanent address. If I rent a place in DC for 2 4 weeks around election day, it doesn't entitle me to vote there. (And again, utilities are utterly irrelevant.)
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:59     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


None of that is true (and it's hilarious that you think "paying utilities" has any sort of significance.


Renters are allowed to vote, dumbo.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:58     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College students should vote absentee with parents’ address. That’s what my DD does for every election.


I lived in my home state for 2 months in freshman year and then for 1-2 weeks over winter break. Aside, I stayed in the state where my college was located year-round because I got jobs/internships. I was way more invested in the state where my college was located. I had no idea what was happening back home when it came to local elections.

Just saying.


Then change your license.

What's that, you say? You don't have a permanent address in the state in which your college is located?

Oh.

- A democrat


An off-campus rental is a permanent address.


Great. Then change your address, get a license in that state, and vote there. It's not that difficult.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:57     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.


The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:53     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.


As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.


If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.


None of that is true (and it's hilarious that you think "paying utilities" has any sort of significance.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:50     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


+1 Too easy to vote twice in this country.


No, it's not and few people do it. The most recent examples have trended that these are GOP voters.


Actually, both sides do it.


Please provide receipts for this statement, because there were dozens of articles from PA, FL and NC about GOP voters doing it. Where are the Dem voters doing it?


Main stream media owned by Democrats/Liberals do not publish those articles. They would rather cover them up and pretend that there is nothing to see folks... just regurgitate what we do allow to be published...


+1
Here are a few examples - though no doubt the usual LWNJs will move the goalposts for one reason or another.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-successfully-prosecutes-woman-who-pleads-guilty-26-felony-counts-voter-fraud
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/politics/michael-ozzie-myers-election-fraud-prison-sentenced/index.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3810727-alabama-official-indicted-on-voter-fraud-charges-accused-of-ballot-stuffing-in-democratic-primary/
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/taking-action/ag-shapiro-announces-charges-against-philadelphia-man-for-orchestrating-the-forgery-of-signatures-on-election-nomination-petitions-in-municipal-primary-races/


You just proved the point (disputed by many on the right) that it happens on both sides.


Lefties are dumber than the righties. Dumb and Dumber.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 14:46     Subject: Re:Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.


I lived in my college town 11 months out of the year. I was a resident, obviously.


For 4 years, obviously. I would not want you impacting my town.



This is no different than people who move in and out of state for jobs, families, etc. None. Zero. You wouldn't restrict those. You shouldn't restrict college students, whose lives are directly impacted by the states they are living in for at least 4 years.

+1 So, military people who are stationed overseas or who move around every 3 years shouldn't be able to vote in any state?