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Anonymous wrote:I think posters here are confusing Harvard with UVA when discussing STEM

They both are bad at STEM.

There isn't a school in the world ahead of Harvard in the science and math part of STEM.

Putnam math competition results:

1. MIT

2. Harvard

3. Stanford

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard will fall out of top 10 unless they invest in STEM (CS) heavily for the next 10 years.

Harvard is already out of top 5 for many people.

Yes, right, and the evidence of that is their plummeting academic statistics for enrolled students, the precipitous drop in the number of applications, and the acceptance rate rocketing up.

/geez

This is turning out to be a great thread. It's high time people took a closer look at Harvard and Yale and their inexplicable rankings among the top 5 universities. Their mediocrity in STEM has already been noted. But take a gander at their freshman retention rates. Harvard is at 92 percent, which is below Auburn, Brandeis, and the Colorado School of Mines. Yale is even worse at 90 percent, which is worse than UC San Diego, the University of Dayton, and SUNY Stony Brook. Figures are from US News and World Report.

Tell me again why Harvard and Yale are considered top schools?

These lists are clearly composed by blue-haired wasps from the 1950s.

Harvard is definitely great at STEM, no clue why you believe otherwise. Top in math, physics, bio, maybe a bit lacking in some CS and engineering disciplines though

A bit lacking in engineering is quite the understatement - Penn State, UC San Diego, Maryland, Virginia Tech, University of Washington, University of Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Purdue, UIUC, Texas, Michigan, Georgia Tech, and UCLA all rank higher. Harvard engineering is not even in the same conversation as MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Rice, CMU, Cornell and many others. It's mediocre. And it's reflective of Harvard, despite all of its resources, refusing to adjust to changing times. For generations, Harvard regarded engineering as something for the plebes, the tradesmen. Ivy League schools like Cornell, Princeton, and Penn at least made the effort to modernize their programs. Harvard - and Yale as well - did not. And having just gone through the college process with two kids - both landing in top 15 schools - I remain flabbergasted by this enduring reverence for Harvard despite its very considerable weakness in significant areas of study. And no, no one got rejected from Harvard so no bitterness here. It's just a curious observation. But I didn't grow up in the US so maybe I'm missing something.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think posters here are confusing Harvard with UVA when discussing STEM

They both are bad at STEM.

Harvard is in the top 5 US and global rankings in for all the core science and math disciplines: Math, physics, chemistry, bio and biochem.


It's not--and is not trying to be--a "tech" school. Those are more applied fields and not their primary focus.

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Anonymous wrote:Is someone from Duke admissions paying people on this thread? Duke isn't elite. I don't know anyone who considers it to be so, either.

You sound like Duke reject lol

Salty Duke grad? Sorry the truth hurts.

Anonymous wrote:I think posters here are confusing Harvard with UVA when discussing STEM

They both are bad at STEM.

I think posters here are confusing Harvard with UVA when discussing STEM

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard will fall out of top 10 unless they invest in STEM (CS) heavily for the next 10 years.

Harvard is already out of top 5 for many people.

Yes, right, and the evidence of that is their plummeting academic statistics for enrolled students, the precipitous drop in the number of applications, and the acceptance rate rocketing up.

/geez

This is turning out to be a great thread. It's high time people took a closer look at Harvard and Yale and their inexplicable rankings among the top 5 universities. Their mediocrity in STEM has already been noted. But take a gander at their freshman retention rates. Harvard is at 92 percent, which is below Auburn, Brandeis, and the Colorado School of Mines. Yale is even worse at 90 percent, which is worse than UC San Diego, the University of Dayton, and SUNY Stony Brook. Figures are from US News and World Report.

Tell me again why Harvard and Yale are considered top schools?

These lists are clearly composed by blue-haired wasps from the 1950s.

Harvard is definitely great at STEM, no clue why you believe otherwise. Top in math, physics, bio, maybe a bit lacking in some CS and engineering disciplines though

Truth!

And the weakest of their math grads are the ones to go on to do high level/high income work in CS/quant finance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard will fall out of top 10 unless they invest in STEM (CS) heavily for the next 10 years.

Harvard is already out of top 5 for many people.

Yes, right, and the evidence of that is their plummeting academic statistics for enrolled students, the precipitous drop in the number of applications, and the acceptance rate rocketing up.

/geez

This is turning out to be a great thread. It's high time people took a closer look at Harvard and Yale and their inexplicable rankings among the top 5 universities. Their mediocrity in STEM has already been noted. But take a gander at their freshman retention rates. Harvard is at 92 percent, which is below Auburn, Brandeis, and the Colorado School of Mines. Yale is even worse at 90 percent, which is worse than UC San Diego, the University of Dayton, and SUNY Stony Brook. Figures are from US News and World Report.

Tell me again why Harvard and Yale are considered top schools?

These lists are clearly composed by blue-haired wasps from the 1950s.

Harvard is definitely great at STEM, no clue why you believe otherwise. Top in math, physics, bio, maybe a bit lacking in some CS and engineering disciplines though

Truth!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is someone from Duke admissions paying people on this thread? Duke isn't elite. I don't know anyone who considers it to be so, either.

True Dook is just a basketball school. Actually not anymore after ratface left, terrible season this year and they're only going to get worse from here.

Do you Duke haters have better things to do? It’s astounding how Duke lives in your head rent-free given your dislike for the school, it’s starting to sound vain. Would happily send my kid to Duke over many ivies

Anonymous wrote:Is someone from Duke admissions paying people on this thread? Duke isn't elite. I don't know anyone who considers it to be so, either.

True Dook is just a basketball school. Actually not anymore after ratface left, terrible season this year and they're only going to get worse from here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard will fall out of top 10 unless they invest in STEM (CS) heavily for the next 10 years.

Harvard is already out of top 5 for many people.

Yes, right, and the evidence of that is their plummeting academic statistics for enrolled students, the precipitous drop in the number of applications, and the acceptance rate rocketing up.

/geez

This is turning out to be a great thread. It's high time people took a closer look at Harvard and Yale and their inexplicable rankings among the top 5 universities. Their mediocrity in STEM has already been noted. But take a gander at their freshman retention rates. Harvard is at 92 percent, which is below Auburn, Brandeis, and the Colorado School of Mines. Yale is even worse at 90 percent, which is worse than UC San Diego, the University of Dayton, and SUNY Stony Brook. Figures are from US News and World Report.

Tell me again why Harvard and Yale are considered top schools?

These lists are clearly composed by blue-haired wasps from the 1950s.

Harvard is definitely great at STEM, no clue why you believe otherwise. Top in math, physics, bio, maybe a bit lacking in some CS and engineering disciplines though

Anonymous wrote:Is someone from Duke admissions paying people on this thread? Duke isn't elite. I don't know anyone who considers it to be so, either.

You sound like Duke reject lol

If you divide the UT endowment by 8 schools + 5 medical centers it isn’t as impressive. Wouldn’t make the list.

Is someone from Duke admissions paying people on this thread? Duke isn't elite. I don't know anyone who considers it to be so, either.