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Anonymous wrote:According to Netflix, the pilot was doing home flight simulations of this exact scenario, flying off course, and running out of fuel over the SCS. They didn't spend a lot of time on it, but seems like there's the story right there.

This isn't what the Netflix doc says. It is neither the exact scenario in terms of route nor was it a continuous flight that was simulated. The doc explains why it wasn't identical.

I don't know what happened and don't have a favored theory but the simulator data doesn't seem to be at all relevant. Rather it seems like those who favor "the pilot did it" theory have manipulated the interpretation of the simulator data to be helpful to that narrative but it doesn't really fit.

It was very, very close path but slightly more east on the graphic they showed it. Pretty crazy.

I mean, it wasn't an EXACT match but extremely close!

This article has an image of the simulator route (in red) and where the satellite pings indicate the plane went. Why on earth would a pilot fly a simulated route like this? You'd never actually fly one unless you were trying to crash the plane into the ocean. And this route was the only one on the simulator that he flew manually, apparently.

To believe that the pilot did NOT do this, IMO, requires belief that the simulator route was planted and is a fake.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html

If the pilot did this, why did nobody text or call a loved one? If he did this, he would have been back over Malaysian land (according to that theory he turned around) and the people in the cockpit would have had 15 minutes of air, so why wouldn't they call? Also, was his rapid decent to knock everyone out planned on the simulator.

I still think there are lots of unanswered questions to believe this theory. Also, as I said upthread it would be a total outlier in pilot suicides. To fly until he ran out of gas to be able to plunge it into the ocean. Sitting for 7 hours with a dead cabin, pissing himself. That's a loooong time to execute a suicide mission.

The theory is that he probably depressurized the cabin and shut off oxygen early on to remove resistance.

Also telecom experts said that the phone calls ringing hours later could have easily been caused by searching for signals rather than people being alive with their cell phones turned on.

Over 200 pieces of debris found on African beaches in Madagascar and Mozambique were currents would have carried debris.


Why would the pilot simulate this journey a month before of not on a suicide murder mission? His wife and three kids moved out the day before the incident and he was reportedly very unhappy about his family breaking up (even though he has a mistress).

The solid non-speculative evidence points to the pilot.

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Anonymous wrote:According to Netflix, the pilot was doing home flight simulations of this exact scenario, flying off course, and running out of fuel over the SCS. They didn't spend a lot of time on it, but seems like there's the story right there.

This isn't what the Netflix doc says. It is neither the exact scenario in terms of route nor was it a continuous flight that was simulated. The doc explains why it wasn't identical.

I don't know what happened and don't have a favored theory but the simulator data doesn't seem to be at all relevant. Rather it seems like those who favor "the pilot did it" theory have manipulated the interpretation of the simulator data to be helpful to that narrative but it doesn't really fit.

It was very, very close path but slightly more east on the graphic they showed it. Pretty crazy.

I mean, it wasn't an EXACT match but extremely close!

This article has an image of the simulator route (in red) and where the satellite pings indicate the plane went. Why on earth would a pilot fly a simulated route like this? You'd never actually fly one unless you were trying to crash the plane into the ocean. And this route was the only one on the simulator that he flew manually, apparently.

To believe that the pilot did NOT do this, IMO, requires belief that the simulator route was planted and is a fake.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html

If the pilot did this, why did nobody text or call a loved one? If he did this, he would have been back over Malaysian land (according to that theory he turned around) and the people in the cockpit would have had 15 minutes of air, so why wouldn't they call? Also, was his rapid decent to knock everyone out planned on the simulator.

I still think there are lots of unanswered questions to believe this theory. Also, as I said upthread it would be a total outlier in pilot suicides. To fly until he ran out of gas to be able to plunge it into the ocean. Sitting for 7 hours with a dead cabin, pissing himself. That's a loooong time to execute a suicide mission.

I watched this on History's Greatest Mysteries. I thought they covered all the scenarios well. Very interesting. Anyone see both that episode and the Netflix Documentary? Does the Netflix Documentary add anything worth while that the History's Greatest Mysteries episode doesn't cover?

Anonymous wrote:I guess my problem with every scenario is I don’t know whom to trust. I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist. But we can’t know if the reported flight simulation was real. If the Inmarsat data was real. What about the debris identified by one of the participants in the documentary? Cyndi Hendrey.

"I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist" is always a dead giveaway for a conspiracy theorist.

Ok so my DC made me watch the hole thing.

Theories (am I missing some?)
1. Pilot suicide mission - the Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah shut down plane communications over the South China Sea and then deviated westward from its planned flight path, crossing the Malay Peninsula and Andaman Sea into the Indian Ocean where he downed the plane. He may have murdered everyone/ squashed resistance early on by depressurizing and shutting off oxygen in the cabins.
2. Russian Passengers hijacked plane entering electric control overrides via unlocked hatch in business class.
3. Unscanned Cargo containing 5,000 pounds of lithium-ion batteries triggered a fire
4. Chinese or US shot the plane down in South China Sea.

New York Times uncovered document from the Malaysian police investigation that showed that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. Malaysia withheld this info from a lengthy public report on the investigation - not sure whether Malaysian officials wanted to protect Malaysian officials from law suits/ embarrassment or were not able to believe their pilot capable of mass Murder.

Also the pilot’s wife and kids moved out the day before and his relationship with his mistress was also not going well.

I believe that it was premeditated suicide-mass murder by the pilot and he was enabled by incompetent air traffic safety controls by Malaysian officials.

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Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more clear that it was the pilot, who had simulated and deleted a nearly identical route. What a tragedy. Hopefully airlines have put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again

Right, but what could those be? There haven't been any terrorist murder/suicides by airplane since 9/11 because we have been able to shore up weaknesses. But unfortunately there have been pilot murder/suicides since MH370.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_5735

How do you enable to crew to have some kind of defense and override for a suicidal pilot that doesn't impact the security of the cockpit?

Right. There is not actual way to prevent these cases. The poster who ended with that "wish" was not thinking it through.

Just a classic "thoughts and prayers" signoff.

Anonymous wrote:It couldn’t be more clear that it was the pilot, who had simulated and deleted a nearly identical route. What a tragedy. Hopefully airlines have put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again

Right, but what could those be? There haven't been any terrorist murder/suicides by airplane since 9/11 because we have been able to shore up weaknesses. But unfortunately there have been pilot murder/suicides since MH370.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_5735

How do you enable to crew to have some kind of defense and override for a suicidal pilot that doesn't impact the security of the cockpit?

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Anonymous wrote:According to Netflix, the pilot was doing home flight simulations of this exact scenario, flying off course, and running out of fuel over the SCS. They didn't spend a lot of time on it, but seems like there's the story right there.

This isn't what the Netflix doc says. It is neither the exact scenario in terms of route nor was it a continuous flight that was simulated. The doc explains why it wasn't identical.

I don't know what happened and don't have a favored theory but the simulator data doesn't seem to be at all relevant. Rather it seems like those who favor "the pilot did it" theory have manipulated the interpretation of the simulator data to be helpful to that narrative but it doesn't really fit.

It was very, very close path but slightly more east on the graphic they showed it. Pretty crazy.

I mean, it wasn't an EXACT match but extremely close!

This article has an image of the simulator route (in red) and where the satellite pings indicate the plane went. Why on earth would a pilot fly a simulated route like this? You'd never actually fly one unless you were trying to crash the plane into the ocean. And this route was the only one on the simulator that he flew manually, apparently.

To believe that the pilot did NOT do this, IMO, requires belief that the simulator route was planted and is a fake.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html

And the satellite data would have to be fake, and the confirmed piece of a 777 that was found would have to be planted.

There would be too many countries and too many people involved to be a cover up. If China really believed that a country shot down this plane they would have made a huge stink about it (not just let their people protest Malaysian Airlines). Most of the passengers were from China.

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Anonymous wrote:According to Netflix, the pilot was doing home flight simulations of this exact scenario, flying off course, and running out of fuel over the SCS. They didn't spend a lot of time on it, but seems like there's the story right there.

This isn't what the Netflix doc says. It is neither the exact scenario in terms of route nor was it a continuous flight that was simulated. The doc explains why it wasn't identical.

I don't know what happened and don't have a favored theory but the simulator data doesn't seem to be at all relevant. Rather it seems like those who favor "the pilot did it" theory have manipulated the interpretation of the simulator data to be helpful to that narrative but it doesn't really fit.

It was very, very close path but slightly more east on the graphic they showed it. Pretty crazy.

I mean, it wasn't an EXACT match but extremely close!

This article has an image of the simulator route (in red) and where the satellite pings indicate the plane went. Why on earth would a pilot fly a simulated route like this? You'd never actually fly one unless you were trying to crash the plane into the ocean. And this route was the only one on the simulator that he flew manually, apparently.

To believe that the pilot did NOT do this, IMO, requires belief that the simulator route was planted and is a fake.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese government shooting it down also explains why it's never really been found.

There is no way that it was shot down in the Gulf of Thailand/South China Sea area. There would be debris everywhere and that's exactly where they were first searching.

I don't understand the idea that the plane went into a pilot-induced dive at the end. Where did that come from? It seems much more likely to me that the pilot set the heading and took off his mask to end it, and then the plane flew Payne Stewart-style the rest of the way. It crashed into a deep ocean where nobody could realistically find it.

Satellite data indicates a rapid and steep descent in the final minutes.

I guess my problem with every scenario is I don’t know whom to trust. I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist. But we can’t know if the reported flight simulation was real. If the Inmarsat data was real. What about the debris identified by one of the participants in the documentary? Cyndi Hendrey.

It couldn’t be more clear that it was the pilot, who had simulated and deleted a nearly identical route. What a tragedy. Hopefully airlines have put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again

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Anonymous wrote:According to Netflix, the pilot was doing home flight simulations of this exact scenario, flying off course, and running out of fuel over the SCS. They didn't spend a lot of time on it, but seems like there's the story right there.

This isn't what the Netflix doc says. It is neither the exact scenario in terms of route nor was it a continuous flight that was simulated. The doc explains why it wasn't identical.

I don't know what happened and don't have a favored theory but the simulator data doesn't seem to be at all relevant. Rather it seems like those who favor "the pilot did it" theory have manipulated the interpretation of the simulator data to be helpful to that narrative but it doesn't really fit.

It was very, very close path but slightly more east on the graphic they showed it. Pretty crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Netflix has a history of making these documentaries with missing information. What time did the call come in from the daughter of the passenger? What did the cell phone data show? 200+ people on that plane where was the last place the phones towers pinged (someone had to have their phone on during the flight). The plane is in the ocean where the last phones pinged.

6+ countries don't have this plane on radar? 2 AWACS planes in the same area at the same time didn't capture any information about this plane? We have satellite that can read the time on your wrist watch yet no ONE, NO ONE has any data on the flight of this plane? Think logically. Something stinks here.

The US waits 2+ years to say the pilot had a similar route on his flight simulation software at home?

The fact that the pilot has to go underneath the plane to turn off visibility makes me think the suicide thing didn't happen. If he were trying to kill everyone he can wouldn't he crash into a population building or place on land not in the ocean?

China, Russia and the US know a lot more than they are saying.

I felt like this wasn't head-on addressed in the Netflix documentary. They seemed to kind of allude to it, talk about the electronics center in the belly of the plane, and then move on. So...could you turn off the signals from the cockpit or not?

Yes you can. They were just trying to show it didn't HAVE to be the pilot.

It was the pilot.

No you misunderstood, they covered this in the show you can only turn it off underneath not from the cockpit.

Who specifically is “they”?

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Anonymous wrote:When the plane went missing, went off course and diverted from the intended flight path why wasn't fighter jets sent out?

None of this makes any sense. I think we are the only ones who don't know what happened to this plane, the US, Russia, Malaysia and China all know.

Nothing else makes any sense.

Vietnam didn't notice or didn't care that the airplane didn't enter their airspace. That's who should have first noticed.

That is odd and a good point. Their controllers would have been expecting this plane, so it's strange they didn't report it.

This is not true. ATC knows of nightly flights, but it is not unusual for flights to be cancelled. With the amount of traffic they handle overnight, they wouldn’t think about a flight not transitting through their airspace.

Unless there is a problem on the ground with Delta 559 leaving boston and going through New York’s coverage area, the NY controllers are not going to assume something is wrong with Delta 559 not showing up.