Anonymous
02/23/2023 08:37
Subject: Re:Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:People lie about being ill everyday. And no one walks around focusing on how these people are mak8ng it harder for others who are truly ill.
That's not true at all. The hypochondriacs do make it harder for people to be heard and taken seriously by a doctor.
Anonymous
02/23/2023 08:34
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
I'm the PP. I have allergies, as does one of my DDs. I've had many people (to include servers at restaurants and even some extended family) question whether my allergies are real, or whether it is just because I don't want to eat something. I've gone so far as to pull out my epipens to prove it...and then walked out of the establishment. Or, even better, waiters who insist that they have "allergy free" food, because "we have a gluten free version!". But, yes...hate to break it to you, there are plenty of people who will assume you are either overreacting or outright lying.
Mine are peanuts and tree nuts, one DD allergic to both of those as well as egg. It is really frustrating.
Agreed. It is important to understand if a person has an allergy vs. choosing to avoid a food because it "makes them gassy." I'm in a volunteer role where we serve food for upwards of 100 people of a span of three days about five times a year. I say this because we definitely volunteers and not professionals.
It makes an absolute difference us as to who has a real allergy - we have some people with mushroom allergies - and people who have dietary preferences for no gluten or lactose or whatever. As in we won't have any foods at any point with mushrooms. But if gluten makes you gassy? We're not accommodating that.
Anonymous
02/23/2023 08:27
Subject: Re:Increase in peanut allergies??
People lie about being ill everyday. And no one walks around focusing on how these people are mak8ng it harder for others who are truly ill.
Anonymous
02/23/2023 08:26
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
Well many people are lying. Didn’t say you were but the truth is that lots of people say there’s an allergy when there isn’t. This may be intentional lying or misinformation but it doesn’t change the truth. See also: the boy who cried wolf.
“According to the report, one study found that 12 to 13 percent of adults and children diagnosed themselves as having a food allergy. Medical testing, though, showed that only 3 percent actually did.”
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/612476
Maybe people should focus on those who are telling the truth or keep queit.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 23:32
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
Well many people are lying. Didn’t say you were but the truth is that lots of people say there’s an allergy when there isn’t. This may be intentional lying or misinformation but it doesn’t change the truth. See also: the boy who cried wolf.
“According to the report, one study found that 12 to 13 percent of adults and children diagnosed themselves as having a food allergy. Medical testing, though, showed that only 3 percent actually did.”
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/612476
I've known people who have lied, and it's really annoying.
But the Boy Who Cried Wolf is a story where the person who cried wolf receives the consequences. You're talking about a situation where you're ignoring other townspeople who are in actual danger, because the boy cried wolf. That's twisted and messed up.
So, yes, it's annoying that you might put away your peanuts for someone who overreacted to a symptom and whose kid isn't actually allergic, but the opposite? That you endanger a child who did nothing wrong? Isn't an option.
I’m just explaining why not everyone takes it seriously. That’s all.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 23:22
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
Well many people are lying. Didn’t say you were but the truth is that lots of people say there’s an allergy when there isn’t. This may be intentional lying or misinformation but it doesn’t change the truth. See also: the boy who cried wolf.
“According to the report, one study found that 12 to 13 percent of adults and children diagnosed themselves as having a food allergy. Medical testing, though, showed that only 3 percent actually did.”
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/612476
I've known people who have lied, and it's really annoying.
But the Boy Who Cried Wolf is a story where the person who cried wolf receives the consequences. You're talking about a situation where you're ignoring other townspeople who are in actual danger, because the boy cried wolf. That's twisted and messed up.
So, yes, it's annoying that you might put away your peanuts for someone who overreacted to a symptom and whose kid isn't actually allergic, but the opposite? That you endanger a child who did nothing wrong? Isn't an option.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 23:13
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
Well many people are lying. Didn’t say you were but the truth is that lots of people say there’s an allergy when there isn’t. This may be intentional lying or misinformation but it doesn’t change the truth. See also: the boy who cried wolf.
“According to the report, one study found that 12 to 13 percent of adults and children diagnosed themselves as having a food allergy. Medical testing, though, showed that only 3 percent actually did.”
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/612476
Anonymous
02/22/2023 21:32
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
I'm the PP. I have allergies, as does one of my DDs. I've had many people (to include servers at restaurants and even some extended family) question whether my allergies are real, or whether it is just because I don't want to eat something. I've gone so far as to pull out my epipens to prove it...and then walked out of the establishment. Or, even better, waiters who insist that they have "allergy free" food, because "we have a gluten free version!". But, yes...hate to break it to you, there are plenty of people who will assume you are either overreacting or outright lying.
Mine are peanuts and tree nuts, one DD allergic to both of those as well as egg. It is really frustrating.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 19:33
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Where are all those people claiming they have a food allergy when they don't? I have never met anyone like that. If someone tells me they or their kid have a food allergy, it wouldn't occur to question it. The fact is that food allergies are going through the roof in young kids. I don't get why people would think we are lying about something so serious. And it's quite offensive to suggest that we deserve not to be taken seriously because of some unfounded suspicion that some of us are lying.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 19:08
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
DP. There's a difference between "this food gave me a stomach ache" and "this food will kill me".
For example: dairy. Lactose intolerance =/= true dairy allergy. One gives you an upset stomach for a few hours, and the other will kill you.
And, yes, people saying the have a food allergy, when they really don't has contributed to others not taking true allergies seriously.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 18:21
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not just the PP's singular story. There are many of us telling you that we breastfed and did everything "right," and anaphylactic food allergies are still there. I know you want a simplistic answer, but if scientists don't know and can't find the reason, I am pretty sure your attempts to place the blame on maternal laziness are not going to work.
Personally, I believe that the increase in allergies and mental illness are related (not that they are related in a single person, but that there may be a common factor causing the societal increase in both). Histamine is also a neurotransmitter. Many antidepressants have powerful antihistamine properties. They have found elevated histamine levels in some anorexics. There is a potential relationship between these things worthy of more research.
DP who breastfed first kid for a year and second one for 1.5 years.
I wonder if my kids would have less allergies (combined, they are allergic to dairy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, fish ) if I never breastfed them. I grew up in a place where allergies are not common, but I had all kinds of undiagnosed illnesses and neurological issues that go away when I don't eat wheat and dairy ( I am allergic to neither according to allergy tests).
I think I was born with a messed up immune system and I passed it down to them. I wonder if they would have had a better chance of not picking up my immune issues if they never breastfed at all.
I could have written that. I’m intolerant to gluten and dairy and just sensitive to stuff in general. Some foods give me migraines. I don’t have allergies though and am in excellent health. I think my body doesn’t break down food protein as it should (leaky gut?). I’m pretty sure breastfeeding or even just pregnancy exposed my babies to food proteins in a way that made them allergic. If I had to do it again I would not breastfeed. Or use donor milk maybe. We always wanted a third but I’ve been to scared to have another child with multiple food allergies and not knowing what to do to prevent them.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 17:55
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:It's not just the PP's singular story. There are many of us telling you that we breastfed and did everything "right," and anaphylactic food allergies are still there. I know you want a simplistic answer, but if scientists don't know and can't find the reason, I am pretty sure your attempts to place the blame on maternal laziness are not going to work.
Personally, I believe that the increase in allergies and mental illness are related (not that they are related in a single person, but that there may be a common factor causing the societal increase in both). Histamine is also a neurotransmitter. Many antidepressants have powerful antihistamine properties. They have found elevated histamine levels in some anorexics. There is a potential relationship between these things worthy of more research.
DP who breastfed first kid for a year and second one for 1.5 years.
I wonder if my kids would have less allergies (combined, they are allergic to dairy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, fish ) if I never breastfed them. I grew up in a place where allergies are not common, but I had all kinds of undiagnosed illnesses and neurological issues that go away when I don't eat wheat and dairy ( I am allergic to neither according to allergy tests).
I think I was born with a messed up immune system and I passed it down to them. I wonder if they would have had a better chance of not picking up my immune issues if they never breastfed at all.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 17:47
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally I see more allergies in children conceived with fertility treatments.
Bingo.
Bingo what? That you Two are bigoted idiots?
Not necessarily.
People also suggests that the rise in autoimmune conditions correlate with the rise in infertility.
So perhaps these autoimmune disorders are causing the need for ivf treatment and causing the rise in allergies.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 17:44
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anonymous wrote:There is evidence that food allergies are widely overstated and a lot of people who claim an allergy really have a sensitivity or intolerance. Remember when everyone had celiac? This leads to the general public not taking true allergies as seriously.
The general public can go to hell. Allergies/ sensitivities = those foods make me sick.
Anonymous
02/22/2023 17:37
Subject: Increase in peanut allergies??
Anecdotally, I ate Bamba as a kid and so did all my cousins and friends. None of us has peanut allergies. I’m the only one with any food allergy. To all dairy. Not lactose intolerance, full bloody allergy.