Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:25     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 30 and this does not surprise me in the least. I remember hoping as early as in high school that I would never have a daughter. The pressure on girls is immense, much more so than boys.


I’m 40 and didn’t feel this way at all. I would never want to be a man.


Ditto. Love being a woman. Of course, I have opted out of traditional beauty and social stuff since I was a teen. Don’t care if I am not the most beautiful or popular. People think I am weird but w/e.


That’s nice for you but rather tone deaf given the prevalence of mental health issues/ suicide/ self harming and violence experienced by many teen girls now.



Tone deaf isn't the right word. If one person loves or is content with themselves and their sex/gender while another person hates (?) themselves or their sex/gender or wants to be the other/a different sex/gender, then it is difficult for the people to relate to one another. That doesn't mean that one of them is tone deaf. It means that it is difficult to relate to one another.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:25     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/cdc-data-shows-u-s-teen-girls-in-crisis-with-unprecedented-rise-in-suicidal-behavior

Has anyone else seen all this new data? As a mother of a HS age daughter I am just not seeing this. I asked my daughter about it and she doesn’t personally know anyone who has admitted any sort of struggle. She of course knows tons of kids on meds for ADHD but that’s pretty normal these days.

I keep pretty close tabs on things so I’m wondering how I’m missing this, or what the difference is? Not saying DD never struggles but generally she enjoys school and her friends and has a positive outlook. Her friends all seem the same.


Read this book:
https://www.thecoddling.com/

We are setting our kids up to feel fragile. It is having a disproportionate impact on mental health.


“The Coddling?” What abject garbage. No thanks.


I think it’s true. I’m, a GenXor who was latchkey kid, am astonished at how overprotective and stifling parents are in our private school. Kids have zero(!), zero control over their lives. Parents decide for them which classes to take, which clubs to join, what friends to pick.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:23     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 30 and this does not surprise me in the least. I remember hoping as early as in high school that I would never have a daughter. The pressure on girls is immense, much more so than boys.


I’m 40 and didn’t feel this way at all. I would never want to be a man.


Ditto. Love being a woman. Of course, I have opted out of traditional beauty and social stuff since I was a teen. Don’t care if I am not the most beautiful or popular. People think I am weird but w/e.


That’s nice for you but rather tone deaf given the prevalence of mental health issues/ suicide/ self harming and violence experienced by many teen girls now.

Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:18     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
You are the ones creating this environment for the kids.

You are the ones who create pressure to succeed academically, you are the ones who are too busy to drive them to meet up with friends, you are the ones who are creating rat race to the selective colleges.

All social media posts about beauty, expense clothing, designer houses are created by women. Men don’t post this crap.

So let’s take a hard look at ourselves.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:18     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 30 and this does not surprise me in the least. I remember hoping as early as in high school that I would never have a daughter. The pressure on girls is immense, much more so than boys.


I’m 40 and didn’t feel this way at all. I would never want to be a man.


NP. I'm in my 40s and agree. I hear this a lot and I cannot relate to it at all. I don't understand the feeling or where it would come from. So I know that girls and teens are really struggling now but i don't really understand all of it, cannot empathize, only sympathize.


No teen girls that I knew in middle school, high school, or college wanted to be boys or men. It was not a thing in our era.

I did have one college roommate at UD that attempted suicide (not on campus) but she had a very long history of mental health issues.
I think she had brain chemical imbalances.

I suspect a lot of what is going on today is social contagion.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:11     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 30 and this does not surprise me in the least. I remember hoping as early as in high school that I would never have a daughter. The pressure on girls is immense, much more so than boys.


I’m 40 and didn’t feel this way at all. I would never want to be a man.


Ditto. Love being a woman. Of course, I have opted out of traditional beauty and social stuff since I was a teen. Don’t care if I am not the most beautiful or popular. People think I am weird but w/e.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 12:09     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Social media + lack of religion + general degradation of human morality and basic decency towards others.

Sad state of the world we live in.

My religion teaches suicide is a sin. And teaches hope, and bringing your problems to God.


How does religion teaching its a sin help? Most people commit sin's without thinking twice, usually the most religious.


+1. Not to mention that "bringing your problem to god " does nothing either.

Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 11:56     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:Mothers of daughters, step on up. You are failing your daughters


What a troll, what nonsense. How about mothers (and fathers!) of sons step up - the daughters are not sexually assaulting themselves.


Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 11:53     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:People don’t advertise when they are suicidal so it’s no surprise that neither you nor your child know anyone. I spent years working with families after they had a family member commit suicide. The single uniform message from every single one is that they had no clue. Yes, they knew of mental health issues. But not a single one saw it coming. And, sadly and ironically, years later I had my own try to kill themself more than once. And, guess what. Even I, who had spent years working in the field of suicide, never saw it coming.

I don’t have an opinion about the statistics you cited. But I think that your belief that you would see it is grandiose.


This x 1000000. You never see it coming. And that is the only common denominator.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 11:52     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 30 and this does not surprise me in the least. I remember hoping as early as in high school that I would never have a daughter. The pressure on girls is immense, much more so than boys.


I’m 40 and didn’t feel this way at all. I would never want to be a man.


NP. I'm in my 40s and agree. I hear this a lot and I cannot relate to it at all. I don't understand the feeling or where it would come from. So I know that girls and teens are really struggling now but i don't really understand all of it, cannot empathize, only sympathize.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 11:47     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
My teenage neighbor committed suicide a few years ago, and having witnessed the unspeakable anguish that the parents have dealt with, and will have to carry with them for the rest of their lives, it breaks my heart that some would think it was their fault. This is so incredibly complex and intertwined with lots of factors. For people to just point fingers is not helpful.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 11:34     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:So what are parents supposed to do if there are literally no signs? The kids aren’t even a little depressed first?


Lock up prescription medications and OTC medications in large quantities. Remove guns from your home.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 10:44     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:Mothers of daughters, step on up. You are failing your daughters


Seriously. Society is failing our children. We are stepping up. It’s time to stop blaming Mom for everything and face up to the greed, misogyny, corruption rampant in our culture.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 10:37     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
The struggle is absolutely real. I see it with my DD and her friends... started in HS and continues even now in college.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 10:17     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:Mothers of daughters, step on up. You are failing your daughters


Why just mothers? So much of it is because these girls have been sexually assaulted or sexually abused by grown-a** men. Why aren’t fathers “taking out the trash” so to speak?