Anonymous
08/02/2024 10:07
Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.
1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.
2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.
2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.
2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.
Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.
The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?
nope
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/
the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.
Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.
PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.
My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.
You're forgetting the Supreme Court role (and many of the lawyers--I forget who--who Roger Stone herded to Florida to do battle for Bush and who included John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.
Sandra O'Connor was not just the swing vote in Bush vs Gore, she provided a 4 page legal analysis supporting Bush even before arguments were heard. She ignored the conflict of interest between the Florida SOS--who also co-chaired the Bush campaign in Florida. And it was her own husband who told the story--widely reported--that the initial announcement of Gore winning upset her because it messed up her plans for retirement: she'd have to stick around four more years at least to keep Gore from appointing her replacement.
To her credit, she later deeply regretted her decision. She thought GW would be like GHW and was horrified by the turns the GOP took after 2000.
"Bush stole the election" was a common phrase back then (but nobody stormed the Capitol). I used to respond by saying "no, he bought it fair and square."
Anonymous
08/02/2024 09:50
Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.
1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.
2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.
2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.
2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.
Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.
Just saying
This is so bizarrely off topic. Why don’t you start a new thread?
They're adding to the foreign interference in the Trump campaign, dummy. I'd seen this reported on an actual news site not long ago.
Anonymous
08/02/2024 09:47
Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.
1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.
2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.
2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.
2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.
Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.
Just saying
This is so bizarrely off topic. Why don’t you start a new thread?
Anonymous
08/02/2024 06:29
Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.
1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.
2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.
2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.
2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.
Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.
Just saying
Anonymous
08/21/2023 22:12
Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
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He's a decent man.
He was a horrible president.
He is one of the only presidents I can remember who used his platform as "former president" to do good post-presidency. He was not obsessed with wealth, as his very modest home and lifestyle prove.
That’s kinda the takeaway I have thought horrible May be too strong a word. As a kid I recall the little push to go metric in school. He may have been a bit too naive (?) politically (eg, on the release of hostages). He was probably too humble or appeared too weak to deal with some countries who would not have respected that kind of posture in a president.
He was a rare bird.
He was right about the metric system and it's a damn shame we didn't adopt it. So stupid to have a cumbersome old system that isn't in sync with the rest of the world just because people are too rigid to adapt to something new and superior to the old ways.
Ehh. I've lived in metric countries for years (more than a decade actually) and I don't see a particular virtue to metric over American or the old Imperial. If anything, the American/Imperial system is more intuitive to everyday usage and more accurately reflects how we perceive and handle measurement. The current American model where a lot of measurement in industry and packaging is already quietly in metric works just fine and dandy. The reason we haven't switched over to metric is because... there really is no point. It doesn't make anything better or more efficient.
It’s more intuitive because we have 12 fingers and 3 feet? I think maybe you don’t get math if you don’t understand why metric is easier. The only reason it’s not efficient to switch to metric is because we already have everything here set up in the bizarro random system we have now.
I think PP meant it’s more initiative in the sense that an inch is roughly the size of the long bone of an adult thumb, a foot roughly the same size as an adult foot, etc. The measures are somewhat relateable.
Sure, because all men and women have the same thumb and foot size. /s
Even the inventors of the system, the British (and their commonwealth nations), have gone to metric. Even they know it's not more "initiative".
I see you have never been to the UK.
+1
I laughed.