Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 07:10     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:I’m not in your area, but for me to use bikes as a mode of transport I’d need dedicated bike lanes that are raised and fenced off from the road (ie much safer) ALL THE WAY. I’m not going to be safe for some of the way then play Russian roulette for the rest.

To use buses, I’d need to know they were safe and clean (no gangs, homeless or other crazies) and there would need to be “green roads and bridges” that only buses and bikes can use that significantly reduce travel time especially during rush hour.

I’ve lived in other places in the world that have these things and they really do work.


Homeless people also have places to go. They might be traveling from a shelter to a social services office to a medical clinic to the library to apply for a job. And many more people are experiencing homelessness than the folks sitting outside the Starbucks. It includes mothers transporting their young children to school and even people with jobs. If you are worried about people who smell or have paranoid schizophrenia state that specifically, though that isn’t limited to homeless people.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 07:03     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
A cure for my chronic illnesses. If the stars perfectly align, it’s a 2 hour 15 min trip by public transportation from my home to the hospital where my specialists practice. That doesn’t include the walk from my home to the first bus stop. I can’t do any of that during a lupus flare let alone when I’m receiving chemo for cancer. Pain, physical exhaustion, nausea, diarrhea, and being immunocompromised keep me in a car.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 06:59     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sweat profusely. Been that way all my life. I sweat at the drop of a hat even a teen and 20-something multi-sport athlete. Cultural norms and acceptance around sweat and resulting odor would have to change.

Also, speed limits on bike routes would have to be imposed and low enough to accommodate walkers and children.




Why do walkers and children need to be on bike routes?


Is this a serious question? Most off road bike trails are multi-use, meaning for pedestrians too. I mean the ones that go through parks or on the sides of roads separated by grass, not bike lanes within the roadway. And children bike places for transportation, too.


Yeah, those aren't really bike routes. With the "shared use" paths, the shared use is non-ideal for both pedestrians and bicyclists.

Because cyclist don’t know how to share.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 06:51     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone has summed up the very reasonable objections. No way any of these can be fixed


Yes, boomers and gen X'ers must keep polluting the planet relentlessly with their personal automobile addiction until they push daisies, because their hubris won't let them admit that the way they architected things led to the current toxic built environment and relentless global warming. Got it.


I'm a millennial, so... this is not a generational issue.

I love to be able to take the metro, but read the other thread about everyone jumping over the fare turnstile, smoking weed on the platforms, crazy people grabbing women's arms. General antisocial behavior. No thanks.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 06:40     Subject: Re:What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Much more expensive fares to filter out undesirable passengers.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 23:34     Subject: Re:What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
I don’t want to live in DC so I would be restricted to job opportunities in my local suburban CBD. I drive for the $$.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 23:23     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
The only places I ride bikes is a separate bike path. Otherwise I think it’s too dangerous.

This is how it is in Germany. They have red painted bike lanes next to the sidewalk, above the curb. Then you don't have to deal with cars riding next to you.


Delivery drivers will block this even in the curb. This is what happens in dc.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 23:17     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:Safe streets so I don't feel like I am taking my life into my hands to get a loaf of bread at BreadFurst, for example.


This. A protected bike lane or lane on the sidewalk of Connecticut that could provide me with something safer than what is currently available. I feel like Connecticut Ave is a freeway during rush hour with zero enforcement.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:25     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone has summed up the very reasonable objections. No way any of these can be fixed


Yes, boomers and gen X'ers must keep polluting the planet relentlessly with their personal automobile addiction until they push daisies, because their hubris won't let them admit that the way they architected things led to the current toxic built environment and relentless global warming. Got it.


Yawwwwwnnn. Get a new song. This one is tired and played out.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:24     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:Everyone has summed up the very reasonable objections. No way any of these can be fixed


Yes, boomers and gen X'ers must keep polluting the planet relentlessly with their personal automobile addiction until they push daisies, because their hubris won't let them admit that the way they architected things led to the current toxic built environment and relentless global warming. Got it.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:23     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
The bus takes too long and I’m not going to bike on hills with my 5 and 8 year olds. So basically safety and convenience.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:21     Subject: Re:What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
That's fine with me. I drive a capacious, comfortable automobile with a great sound system and all kinds of bells and whistles. I actually enjoy my commuting time.
Well bully for you. I'm certain you maneuver around carefully and keep everyone else on the road safe... right? Right??

https://kmph.com/news/local/dangerous-blind-spots-in-trucks-and-suvs-cause-hundreds-of-child-deaths


Just take the L already. Your goalpost moving is getting embarrassing for you.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:19     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone has summed up the very reasonable objections. No way any of these can be fixed


Then expect to spend a lot more time in your car in the future.


Cool.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:18     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:How about this: I will start cycling when you people shut up about it. Deal?


LOL. About the same time when we’ll all start being vegan or using diva menstrual cups.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:16     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but public transit has never been as close to as convenient as the car for me, whether it was living in Alexandria, Fairfax, Georgetown, or Baltimore. I don't have the time to waste to double or triple my travel time to use public transit, ignoring all the problems associated with it that I can deal with but would prefer not.


What happens when you can't find a parking space or you have to pay to park?


There is no such thing as “can’t” find a parking space. It may not be immediate. That’s fine. And if you have to pay to park, you…pay to park.

Sorry, you’re not going to change anyone’s mind.