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Post 02/03/2023 00:07     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:They will change a few neighborhoods on the very edges of DCC, at most. They will draw from the bulk of DCC only through the magnet program, which will do just a little to help DCC overcrowding and likely take from among the more motivated DCC students. Ws need not be concerned -- their needs will be met, and they won't have to worry about socioeconomic mixing.

Now the boundary analysis, on the other hand...nah -- that has enough over-focused political interest to burn itself up and get buried. No real solutions for those most in need.


What magnet program?


Woodward is supposed to have a magnet program when it opens. Regional, I think, maybe arts/performing arts? They were going to be building that out while the displaced Northwood population resided there for 2 years after completion of phase 1.


Nothing about a new magnet program has been decided.


Sources tell me this won't happen.


Good. Every available seat in the building is going to be needed f
or the WJ + DCC kids.


Nah, just the nearby adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein, and BCC. By making room at these schools, they can shift their boundaries to create room at other adjacent DCC schools when needed.



BCC is nowhere near Woodward—it's 5.8 miles away. I can't imagine they'd bus kids that far, especially with morning commuter traffic.


Some kids can go to WJ from BCC, they don't have to bus to Woodward. WJ can move more kids to Woodward to make extra space. So on ....


Woodward is for WJ and the DCC. BCC is not part of it, no matter how many times you post on DCUM.


Current school catchments aren't immutable, populations and needs change, and, despite schools being listed by agents when a home is on the market, the purchase of a home or signing of a lease does not confer a right to any particular school.

Folks are making suggestions within a discussion. One that is unlikely to have any real influence over MCPS/BOE decisions, but one that is reasonable to have and with the potential to be informative.

No matter how many times you rail against that.


Let me know when MCPS changes the CIP.


Why do we need change in CIP for this?


The CIP reflects MCPS's plans. If MCPS's plans change, the CIP changes. The current CIP says, "To address the urgent space needs at Walter Johnson High School and the Downcounty Consortium high schools, an FY 2019 appropriation was approved for planning funds to reopen Charles W. Woodward High School." If MCPS changes that, it will mean that MCPS has changed its plans.


Yes, everyone knows that Woodward is needed urgently to help WJ and DCC overcrowding. No one is denying that.

It hardly means that entire Woodward has to be populated exclusively with WJ and DCC area. Some DCC kids can go to BCC and some BCC kids can go to Woodward. All of that will still be there to help WJ and DCC, but boundaries has very little to with it.

I find it very hard to believe that with all the fuss about the lack of diversity in the Ws that the BOE will re-open Woodward and populate it exclusively with students from Bethesda. Distances don’t seem to be a strength with a lot of posters here, but there are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are just as close if not closer to Woodward than any of the BCC feeders (Sargent Shriver, Viers Mill, Wheaton Woods, Highland, and OTES) and are much more diverse.

This. Woodward use to be open and some of the elementary schools that go to Wheaton now went to Woodward then. Definitely Veirs Mill but there were others.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2023 00:05     Subject: New "W" High School

I don't have a dog in this fight because my kids are already for high school. But we are zoned for Einstein kids and both of my kids are taking advantage of programs at different DCC schools. I definitely would want to stay in the DCC and would be super upset if my kid was, say, 10, and I had to worry that he couldn't go to, say, the Wheaton STEM programs.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 23:55     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:/ Overwhelming majority of kids in Woodward are going to come from WJ, with a smattering from DCC /


Fixed it for ya.


That wouldn't make sense. Woodward's capacity will be 2150. WJ will be overcapacity by 800, Wheaton by 400, and Einstein by 500.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:05     Subject: New "W" High School

Anonymous wrote:/ Overwhelming majority of kids in Woodward are going to come from WJ, with a smattering from DCC /


Fixed it for ya.
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Post 02/02/2023 21:50     Subject: New "W" High School

/ Majority of kids in Woodward are going to come from WJ and DCC /
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Post 02/02/2023 21:49     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:They will change a few neighborhoods on the very edges of DCC, at most. They will draw from the bulk of DCC only through the magnet program, which will do just a little to help DCC overcrowding and likely take from among the more motivated DCC students. Ws need not be concerned -- their needs will be met, and they won't have to worry about socioeconomic mixing.

Now the boundary analysis, on the other hand...nah -- that has enough over-focused political interest to burn itself up and get buried. No real solutions for those most in need.


What magnet program?


Woodward is supposed to have a magnet program when it opens. Regional, I think, maybe arts/performing arts? They were going to be building that out while the displaced Northwood population resided there for 2 years after completion of phase 1.


Nothing about a new magnet program has been decided.


Sources tell me this won't happen.


Good. Every available seat in the building is going to be needed f
or the WJ + DCC kids.


Nah, just the nearby adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein, and BCC. By making room at these schools, they can shift their boundaries to create room at other adjacent DCC schools when needed.



BCC is nowhere near Woodward—it's 5.8 miles away. I can't imagine they'd bus kids that far, especially with morning commuter traffic.


Some kids can go to WJ from BCC, they don't have to bus to Woodward. WJ can move more kids to Woodward to make extra space. So on ....


Woodward is for WJ and the DCC. BCC is not part of it, no matter how many times you post on DCUM.


Current school catchments aren't immutable, populations and needs change, and, despite schools being listed by agents when a home is on the market, the purchase of a home or signing of a lease does not confer a right to any particular school.

Folks are making suggestions within a discussion. One that is unlikely to have any real influence over MCPS/BOE decisions, but one that is reasonable to have and with the potential to be informative.

No matter how many times you rail against that.


Let me know when MCPS changes the CIP.


Why do we need change in CIP for this?


The CIP reflects MCPS's plans. If MCPS's plans change, the CIP changes. The current CIP says, "To address the urgent space needs at Walter Johnson High School and the Downcounty Consortium high schools, an FY 2019 appropriation was approved for planning funds to reopen Charles W. Woodward High School." If MCPS changes that, it will mean that MCPS has changed its plans.


Yes, everyone knows that Woodward is needed urgently to help WJ and DCC overcrowding. No one is denying that.

It hardly means that entire Woodward has to be populated exclusively with WJ and DCC area. Some DCC kids can go to BCC and some BCC kids can go to Woodward. All of that will still be there to help WJ and DCC, but boundaries has very little to with it.

I find it very hard to believe that with all the fuss about the lack of diversity in the Ws that the BOE will re-open Woodward and populate it exclusively with students from Bethesda. Distances don’t seem to be a strength with a lot of posters here, but there are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are just as close if not closer to Woodward than any of the BCC feeders (Sargent Shriver, Viers Mill, Wheaton Woods, Highland, and OTES) and are much more diverse.


Nah, new school is likely to be populated by students from all surrounding schools and that includes DCC. Majority of kids in Woodward are going to come from WJ and BCC, but scenario of not touching adjacent schools like BCC or Churchill is not very likely. BCC boundaries can be adjusted to take more students from DCC and BCC can send some students to WJ and so on....

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Post 02/02/2023 21:39     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:They will change a few neighborhoods on the very edges of DCC, at most. They will draw from the bulk of DCC only through the magnet program, which will do just a little to help DCC overcrowding and likely take from among the more motivated DCC students. Ws need not be concerned -- their needs will be met, and they won't have to worry about socioeconomic mixing.

Now the boundary analysis, on the other hand...nah -- that has enough over-focused political interest to burn itself up and get buried. No real solutions for those most in need.


What magnet program?


Woodward is supposed to have a magnet program when it opens. Regional, I think, maybe arts/performing arts? They were going to be building that out while the displaced Northwood population resided there for 2 years after completion of phase 1.


Nothing about a new magnet program has been decided.


Sources tell me this won't happen.


Good. Every available seat in the building is going to be needed f
or the WJ + DCC kids.


Nah, just the nearby adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein, and BCC. By making room at these schools, they can shift their boundaries to create room at other adjacent DCC schools when needed.



BCC is nowhere near Woodward—it's 5.8 miles away. I can't imagine they'd bus kids that far, especially with morning commuter traffic.


Some kids can go to WJ from BCC, they don't have to bus to Woodward. WJ can move more kids to Woodward to make extra space. So on ....


Woodward is for WJ and the DCC. BCC is not part of it, no matter how many times you post on DCUM.


Current school catchments aren't immutable, populations and needs change, and, despite schools being listed by agents when a home is on the market, the purchase of a home or signing of a lease does not confer a right to any particular school.

Folks are making suggestions within a discussion. One that is unlikely to have any real influence over MCPS/BOE decisions, but one that is reasonable to have and with the potential to be informative.

No matter how many times you rail against that.


Let me know when MCPS changes the CIP.


Why do we need change in CIP for this?


The CIP reflects MCPS's plans. If MCPS's plans change, the CIP changes. The current CIP says, "To address the urgent space needs at Walter Johnson High School and the Downcounty Consortium high schools, an FY 2019 appropriation was approved for planning funds to reopen Charles W. Woodward High School." If MCPS changes that, it will mean that MCPS has changed its plans.


CIP does not reflect MCPS plan for boundaries.


It does not reflect MCPS's plans for boundaries; that's what the boundary study is for. It does reflect MCPS's plans for the schools that will be involved in the boundary study. And the schools that will NOT be involved in the boundary study.


Not true. It simply states capital expenditure is to help so and so school.
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Post 02/02/2023 18:42     Subject: New "W" High School

MCPS, when they start the boundary process, will decide what current HSs will be included. We can all safely agree it will include DCC and WJ. Beyond that, no one knows until they start the process. Actually, since they have precedent for changing a boundary study in the middle, we won't know for certain what other HSs (or not) will be included until the process is completed.

BCC parents have been clear that they want no part of Woodward. Does that mean MCPS will listen to them ? That is unknown at this time
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Post 02/02/2023 18:05     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:Every high school is going to be impacted by this. It has been known for years and it is going to ripple through every school.


Every MCPS high school will be impacted by the new Woodward high school? Wow.


Watch how it happens, here is preview

Woodward opens-and takes the name wildcats back so wj becomes the spartans again. area is spllit up and takes on b-cc kids, wj kids / kids in the 7 locks area of Churchill will move to wj, Whitman kids on the Potomac side will go back to Churchill as they once did. B-cc Mass Ave area kids will go to Whitman Kensington kids at b-cc will move to both Woodward and Einstein and wj kids on northern side of Einstein go to Wheaton, northern Wheaton kids go to the new nortwood and blair and so on up the county.

don't forget the new Crown HS which will impact wooton and RM

Not shocked at all that your scenario didn’t include any relief for the current overcrowding at Einstein, let alone the overcrowding that would result from your fantasy of adding Kensington BCC kids to Einstein.


They could send the Einstein inside-the beltway folks to BCC. Or split between BCC and Blair if they can move the Blair overcrowding farther up, though I don't think the boundaries vs. the current location would work well for that -- they really needed to have put a HS closer to TP/DTSS.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 15:51     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:Every high school is going to be impacted by this. It has been known for years and it is going to ripple through every school.


Every MCPS high school will be impacted by the new Woodward high school? Wow.


Watch how it happens, here is preview

Woodward opens-and takes the name wildcats back so wj becomes the spartans again. area is spllit up and takes on b-cc kids, wj kids / kids in the 7 locks area of Churchill will move to wj, Whitman kids on the Potomac side will go back to Churchill as they once did. B-cc Mass Ave area kids will go to Whitman Kensington kids at b-cc will move to both Woodward and Einstein and wj kids on northern side of Einstein go to Wheaton, northern Wheaton kids go to the new nortwood and blair and so on up the county.

don't forget the new Crown HS which will impact wooton and RM

Not shocked at all that your scenario didn’t include any relief for the current overcrowding at Einstein, let alone the overcrowding that would result from your fantasy of adding Kensington BCC kids to Einstein.
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Post 02/02/2023 15:22     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:They will change a few neighborhoods on the very edges of DCC, at most. They will draw from the bulk of DCC only through the magnet program, which will do just a little to help DCC overcrowding and likely take from among the more motivated DCC students. Ws need not be concerned -- their needs will be met, and they won't have to worry about socioeconomic mixing.

Now the boundary analysis, on the other hand...nah -- that has enough over-focused political interest to burn itself up and get buried. No real solutions for those most in need.


What magnet program?


Woodward is supposed to have a magnet program when it opens. Regional, I think, maybe arts/performing arts? They were going to be building that out while the displaced Northwood population resided there for 2 years after completion of phase 1.


Nothing about a new magnet program has been decided.


Sources tell me this won't happen.


Good. Every available seat in the building is going to be needed f
or the WJ + DCC kids.


Nah, just the nearby adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein, and BCC. By making room at these schools, they can shift their boundaries to create room at other adjacent DCC schools when needed.



BCC is nowhere near Woodward—it's 5.8 miles away. I can't imagine they'd bus kids that far, especially with morning commuter traffic.


Some kids can go to WJ from BCC, they don't have to bus to Woodward. WJ can move more kids to Woodward to make extra space. So on ....


Woodward is for WJ and the DCC. BCC is not part of it, no matter how many times you post on DCUM.


Current school catchments aren't immutable, populations and needs change, and, despite schools being listed by agents when a home is on the market, the purchase of a home or signing of a lease does not confer a right to any particular school.

Folks are making suggestions within a discussion. One that is unlikely to have any real influence over MCPS/BOE decisions, but one that is reasonable to have and with the potential to be informative.

No matter how many times you rail against that.


Let me know when MCPS changes the CIP.


Why do we need change in CIP for this?


The CIP reflects MCPS's plans. If MCPS's plans change, the CIP changes. The current CIP says, "To address the urgent space needs at Walter Johnson High School and the Downcounty Consortium high schools, an FY 2019 appropriation was approved for planning funds to reopen Charles W. Woodward High School." If MCPS changes that, it will mean that MCPS has changed its plans.


Yes, everyone knows that Woodward is needed urgently to help WJ and DCC overcrowding. No one is denying that.

It hardly means that entire Woodward has to be populated exclusively with WJ and DCC area. Some DCC kids can go to BCC and some BCC kids can go to Woodward. All of that will still be there to help WJ and DCC, but boundaries has very little to with it.

I find it very hard to believe that with all the fuss about the lack of diversity in the Ws that the BOE will re-open Woodward and populate it exclusively with students from Bethesda. Distances don’t seem to be a strength with a lot of posters here, but there are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are just as close if not closer to Woodward than any of the BCC feeders (Sargent Shriver, Viers Mill, Wheaton Woods, Highland, and OTES) and are much more diverse.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 15:22     Subject: Re:New "W" High School

Aren't you sorry you asked the question, OP?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 15:16     Subject: New "W" High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every high school is going to be impacted by this. It has been known for years and it is going to ripple through every school.


Every MCPS high school will be impacted by the new Woodward high school? Wow.


Watch how it happens, here is preview

Woodward opens-and takes the name wildcats back so wj becomes the spartans again. area is spllit up and takes on b-cc kids, wj kids / kids in the 7 locks area of Churchill will move to wj, Whitman kids on the Potomac side will go back to Churchill as they once did. B-cc Mass Ave area kids will go to Whitman Kensington kids at b-cc will move to both Woodward and Einstein and wj kids on northern side of Einstein go to Wheaton, northern Wheaton kids go to the new nortwood and blair and so on up the county.

don't forget the new Crown HS which will impact wooton and RM
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 15:10     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:BCC is the most attractive school and has the best location and campus. I'd be ticked if my kid were moved from BCC.


Hard pass.


pass granted enjoy your new school.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 15:02     Subject: New "W" High School

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Anonymous wrote:They will change a few neighborhoods on the very edges of DCC, at most. They will draw from the bulk of DCC only through the magnet program, which will do just a little to help DCC overcrowding and likely take from among the more motivated DCC students. Ws need not be concerned -- their needs will be met, and they won't have to worry about socioeconomic mixing.

Now the boundary analysis, on the other hand...nah -- that has enough over-focused political interest to burn itself up and get buried. No real solutions for those most in need.


What magnet program?


Woodward is supposed to have a magnet program when it opens. Regional, I think, maybe arts/performing arts? They were going to be building that out while the displaced Northwood population resided there for 2 years after completion of phase 1.


Nothing about a new magnet program has been decided.


Sources tell me this won't happen.


Good. Every available seat in the building is going to be needed f
or the WJ + DCC kids.


Nah, just the nearby adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein, and BCC. By making room at these schools, they can shift their boundaries to create room at other adjacent DCC schools when needed.



BCC is nowhere near Woodward—it's 5.8 miles away. I can't imagine they'd bus kids that far, especially with morning commuter traffic.


Some kids can go to WJ from BCC, they don't have to bus to Woodward. WJ can move more kids to Woodward to make extra space. So on ....


Woodward is for WJ and the DCC. BCC is not part of it, no matter how many times you post on DCUM.


Current school catchments aren't immutable, populations and needs change, and, despite schools being listed by agents when a home is on the market, the purchase of a home or signing of a lease does not confer a right to any particular school.

Folks are making suggestions within a discussion. One that is unlikely to have any real influence over MCPS/BOE decisions, but one that is reasonable to have and with the potential to be informative.

No matter how many times you rail against that.


Let me know when MCPS changes the CIP.


Why do we need change in CIP for this?


The CIP reflects MCPS's plans. If MCPS's plans change, the CIP changes. The current CIP says, "To address the urgent space needs at Walter Johnson High School and the Downcounty Consortium high schools, an FY 2019 appropriation was approved for planning funds to reopen Charles W. Woodward High School." If MCPS changes that, it will mean that MCPS has changed its plans.


CIP does not reflect MCPS plan for boundaries.


It does not reflect MCPS's plans for boundaries; that's what the boundary study is for. It does reflect MCPS's plans for the schools that will be involved in the boundary study. And the schools that will NOT be involved in the boundary study.