Anonymous wrote:This is the website of the 2022 Republican county council candidate for Silver Spring’s district. Any more questions about why she lost?

https://www.cherylriley4moco.com/

I agree with her. what she wanted to accomplish is stop the madness that is happening now.

What specifically about her platform do you disagree with?

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Anyone that claims that they cannot afford to find anywhere to live in the area needs to explain how unskilled immigrants can afford to do so but they cannot. I’ve got no sympathy. You can either work hard and make smart choices or whine and complain in your parents basement under the mistaken belief that the world owes you something.

By living many people to a unit in places like this: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2023/01/10/flooding-mold-rats-disaster-strikes-again-at-rock-creek-woods-apartments/

http://www.rockcreekwoods.com/about.html

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

That seems like a problem for anybody who might want to eat in a restaurant, have child or elder care, get a blood draw, shop at a grocery store, work in a cleaned space, get things delivered, or pay for home maintenance/repair tasks, doesn't it? Or are you planning to do all of those things yourself?

And yet somehow all those folks make it work, while you apparently can't. People learn to deal with tradeoffs like having roommates or living further out. If those tradeoffs don't work for you, figure out a path forward: move, switch careers, etc.

Plenty of folks cannot make it work actually, which is why we have and will continue to have labor shortages in some of these industries. We've had several staff leave our daycare recently because the commute became too much and there are open positions pretty much everywhere. And this is in a part of MoCo that is relatively more affordable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

That seems like a problem for anybody who might want to eat in a restaurant, have child or elder care, get a blood draw, shop at a grocery store, work in a cleaned space, get things delivered, or pay for home maintenance/repair tasks, doesn't it? Or are you planning to do all of those things yourself?

And yet somehow all those folks make it work, while you apparently can't. People learn to deal with tradeoffs like having roommates or living further out. If those tradeoffs don't work for you, figure out a path forward: move, switch careers, etc.

+1 This is the unfortunate result of snow plow parenting and delayed adolescence. Grown adults that cannot grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

That seems like a problem for anybody who might want to eat in a restaurant, have child or elder care, get a blood draw, shop at a grocery store, work in a cleaned space, get things delivered, or pay for home maintenance/repair tasks, doesn't it? Or are you planning to do all of those things yourself?

Anyone that claims that they cannot afford to find anywhere to live in the area needs to explain how unskilled immigrants can afford to do so but they cannot. I’ve got no sympathy. You can either work hard and make smart choices or whine and complain in your parents basement under the mistaken belief that the world owes you something.

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Anonymous wrote:My family is from SS. We all left decades ago. You can just leave. Everyone can leave, then when the next town is undesirable to you, you move again. At this point, I'm hearing NC is desirable.. That's how this area goes. I'm sure that plays into a lack of accountability for local governments here.

Which is what will happen, eventually. Just wait until they are building rental triplexes in SFH neighborhoods, overwhelming the once good school system and dragging down the values of surrounding homes, all while building essentially zero "affordable" units. Traffic, the crime, oh my! Won't it be grand?

+1000

Thrive MoCo more like Dive MoCo

Anonymous wrote:My family is from SS. We all left decades ago. You can just leave. Everyone can leave, then when the next town is undesirable to you, you move again. At this point, I'm hearing NC is desirable.. That's how this area goes. I'm sure that plays into a lack of accountability for local governments here.

Which is what will happen, eventually. Just wait until they are building rental triplexes in SFH neighborhoods, overwhelming the once good school system and dragging down the values of surrounding homes, all while building essentially zero "affordable" units. Traffic, the crime, oh my! Won't it be grand?

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

That seems like a problem for anybody who might want to eat in a restaurant, have child or elder care, get a blood draw, shop at a grocery store, work in a cleaned space, get things delivered, or pay for home maintenance/repair tasks, doesn't it? Or are you planning to do all of those things yourself?

And yet somehow all those folks make it work, while you apparently can't. People learn to deal with tradeoffs like having roommates or living further out. If those tradeoffs don't work for you, figure out a path forward: move, switch careers, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

Oh cmon. Stop it with the soft bigotry of low expectations.

People love where they can afford to. There are numerous options (presented here) to make that work. Enough.

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

That seems like a problem for anybody who might want to eat in a restaurant, have child or elder care, get a blood draw, shop at a grocery store, work in a cleaned space, get things delivered, or pay for home maintenance/repair tasks, doesn't it? Or are you planning to do all of those things yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

DP. There are so many options to make it work (get a roommate, live further out etc). If none of those is appealing, and your prospects for income growth are limited, then I would seriously consider moving. DC is not a good place for low income earners. You might earn slightly less elsewhere but you’ll feel a lot better off because cost of living is so much lower.

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Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Reality: many people are unable to afford housing, because of an imbalance between supply and demand
You: obviously it's their own darn fault

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

DP. If you are 24 and cannot afford either option then you have probably made some poor life choices. My recommendation is that if that’s where you are financially, it’s not too late to go back to school because you obviously need better skills that are more relevant to the job market.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?

Being unable to afford either option, yet needing a place to live.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think two things can be true.

1) The county does have a housing shortage- both affordable and just in total housing period. We should do something about that.

2) People cant just live wherever they want, regardless of income, age, etc. Thats just life. "I make 40k a year, but I want to live in a brick rowhouse in georgetown". Well sorry, you (or anyone) is not just entitled to that because you'd like it. If you dont earn much, you may have to live farther out, or have a longer commute, or sacrifice on a few of your wants. God knows I did.

I don't think anybody is saying, "I should be able to live in whatever I want wherever I want."

But there's no reason why whole geographic areas should be off limits for people who aren't affluent. That's why it needs to be legal to have a mix of housing type. Maybe you can't afford to live in a free-standing house with a yard, but you can afford to live in an duplex, or in an apartment in a sixplex, or whatever.

There was someone earlier in this thread who was pretty much saying that.

Cite, please. I don't see anyone saying that.

This was the post I was thinking of

"Really? In downtown Silver Spring?

Or elsewhere, where you have to add to your housing costs either the monetary cost of owning and operating a car, or the time cost of getting around the county by bus or bike (plus the opportunity cost of being unable to get to certain parts of the county reasonably, or indeed at all)?


OK so yes- if you live farther out from a city center, you then have to commute to work/things. That's literally life. How many things should we have to subsidize?

It's called making choices. Live in a 600 sq foot shoebox and walk everywhere, or live farther out and drive. What is so hard about these trade offs?