Anonymous wrote:I have two jobs as a security architect at both company A and company B, both jobs are WFH. I got my job at Company A in 2018 and Company B in 2020. I get paid VERY well by both jobs, enough that I can retire in three years, and I am 42 years old. I get exceptional reviews from both jobs that my bonus is 40K and 50K from company A and B, respectively. My boss is very aware that I have two jobs starting in 2021 and his attitude is "don't ask, don't tell".

Nice that’s awesome. That’s how it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

I have two remote jobs in cybersecurity operations. The first job begins at 7am and ends at 3pm, while the 2nd job starts at 11pm and ends at 7am. I sleep between 3pm and 10pm, and also on the jobs between 12am and 7am. I am making 200K on the first job and 195K on the second job. I've been doing it since the pandemic of March 2020. I am going to quit my second job in a month since I've made enough money in the past three years.

You just told us you sleep on the job for 7 hours. This is why you should quit and why WFM is a farce.

PP isn't sleeping on the job. PP is sleeping in between when Job #1 ends and Job #2 starts.

I have two jobs as a security architect at both company A and company B, both jobs are WFH. I got my job at Company A in 2018 and Company B in 2020. I get paid VERY well by both jobs, enough that I can retire in three years, and I am 42 years old. I get exceptional reviews from both jobs that my bonus is 40K and 50K from company A and B, respectively. My boss is very aware that I have two jobs starting in 2021 and his attitude is "don't ask, don't tell".

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

Having two jobs I have great overlap of knowledge. for instance J2 rolled out Jira this week I already use jira J1. Happens a lot. For instance we may start Sox one company we already did Sox other company. Often it is same topics. Nothing trade secrets but I am up on topics asap.

I do same exact job title at two different companies

But are you using the Jira documentation you created for J1 at J2 so that gives you more time for J3, and Js 1-3 are happening at the same time, i.e. the same 8 hour chunk of day? If so that's messed up

No confidential info shared. No sharing of laptops. It is similar when I was in big 4 I do similar projects at same companies. It is called synergy. And in my case have nothing to do with Jira roll out. Just a ticketing tool to be used firm wide. Just I am already familiar with it.

If companies paid fairly, promoted regularly, has equal benefits and did not claw back invested stock this would happen less. It is no different than a dual income WFH couple. They each have access to each others info and cover one another.

What desk do you use for the multiple laptops and monitors?

I don’t use monitors. I just have two laptops on desk. Too lazy today be plugging in and out monitors. Plus I use my phone to respond with slack and gmail J1 as it beeps. so only need j2 laptop open

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

Having two jobs I have great overlap of knowledge. for instance J2 rolled out Jira this week I already use jira J1. Happens a lot. For instance we may start Sox one company we already did Sox other company. Often it is same topics. Nothing trade secrets but I am up on topics asap.

I do same exact job title at two different companies

But are you using the Jira documentation you created for J1 at J2 so that gives you more time for J3, and Js 1-3 are happening at the same time, i.e. the same 8 hour chunk of day? If so that's messed up

No confidential info shared. No sharing of laptops. It is similar when I was in big 4 I do similar projects at same companies. It is called synergy. And in my case have nothing to do with Jira roll out. Just a ticketing tool to be used firm wide. Just I am already familiar with it.

If companies paid fairly, promoted regularly, has equal benefits and did not claw back invested stock this would happen less. It is no different than a dual income WFH couple. They each have access to each others info and cover one another.

What desk do you use for the multiple laptops and monitors?

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

Having two jobs I have great overlap of knowledge. for instance J2 rolled out Jira this week I already use jira J1. Happens a lot. For instance we may start Sox one company we already did Sox other company. Often it is same topics. Nothing trade secrets but I am up on topics asap.

I do same exact job title at two different companies

But are you using the Jira documentation you created for J1 at J2 so that gives you more time for J3, and Js 1-3 are happening at the same time, i.e. the same 8 hour chunk of day? If so that's messed up

No confidential info shared. No sharing of laptops. It is similar when I was in big 4 I do similar projects at same companies. It is called synergy. And in my case have nothing to do with Jira roll out. Just a ticketing tool to be used firm wide. Just I am already familiar with it.

If companies paid fairly, promoted regularly, has equal benefits and did not claw back invested stock this would happen less. It is no different than a dual income WFH couple. They each have access to each others info and cover one another.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

Having two jobs I have great overlap of knowledge. for instance J2 rolled out Jira this week I already use jira J1. Happens a lot. For instance we may start Sox one company we already did Sox other company. Often it is same topics. Nothing trade secrets but I am up on topics asap.

I do same exact job title at two different companies

But are you using the Jira documentation you created for J1 at J2 so that gives you more time for J3, and Js 1-3 are happening at the same time, i.e. the same 8 hour chunk of day? If so that's messed up

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

Having two jobs I have great overlap of knowledge. for instance J2 rolled out Jira this week I already use jira J1. Happens a lot. For instance we may start Sox one company we already did Sox other company. Often it is same topics. Nothing trade secrets but I am up on topics asap.

I do same exact job title at two different companies

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

But CEOs are not attending board meetings at the same time. That's the pronoun folks have with 2x jobs. You're not supposed to be working 2 jobs at the same time. If i have any down time on my job, I network or read trade publications. I come up with pitches. That down time is still spent for the benefit of your job.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Ive worked for 32 years as an exempt employee in 4 different companies - as a manager/professional. In every single instance I have had to complete a timecard daily.

Mr. boomer in the house. 4 jobs in 32 years? I had 4 jobs in last four years. And time cards what are you Fred Flintstone?

Gen X here. I worked one job where I had to "fill out a timecard" and it said 9-5 every day with a 30 m inute lunch at noon. Every, single, solitary day. So NBD.

Genx boomers are the same thing

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this illegal?

Not in the private sector, at most you're breaking a contract if you even have one. No way to pull it off in the fed gov without being fired and repaying the stolen hours. It's a temporary gravy train for tech and call center people right now though.

Anonymous wrote:When your HR gives you the usual:
"wE GrEw tOo fAsT" and "rEcEsSiOn iS HiTtInG Us hArD" bullcrap.

You be happy to have. j1, j2, j3.

Seriously. Your employer DNGAF about you.

I just had brunch last week with couples who told me they do this and manage juggling multiple WFH Jobs.

My cousin is a mom of two girls (age 5 and 2), and works 2 virtual full time jobs in medical billing and payroll that get this-are the same hours (9-5, and 8:30-4:30).

Makes excuses she has to watch the kids when in office case meetings occur that overlap with the other job.

Her husband also works a second part time job in IT from home. They just closed on a house in Alexandria so I guess it works and is commonplace these days

Isn't this illegal?

Anonymous wrote:Join us on reddit - r/overemployed

Some good stuff on Blind too. I think my J1 staff fills their days up or are SAHMs.