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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

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I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

A taser is not considered lethal force. Do you even know what happened?

The guy who was clearly distressed, unarmed and on the ground was tasered 4 times in 30 seconds.

You do know that tasers are linked to hundreds of police induced deaths? Tasers are regarded as less lethal restraining device not non lethal device.

They should have called the LAPD mental health unit to deal with him humanely

Examining fatal and nonfatal
incidents involving the TASER
Identifying predictors of suspect death reported in the media
Michael d. White
Justin ready
Arizona State University
research summary

According to TASER International, nearly 10,000 police departments in the United States have deployed the TASER as a less lethal force alternative in some capacity. Despite the TASER’s increasing popularity, serious questions have been raised about the device’s physi- ological side effects; in particular, Amnesty International has reported that more than 300 people have died after being subjected to the TASER. Although a growing body of research has examined the physiological effects of the TASER on animals and healthy human vol- unteers in laboratory settings, there has been virtually no empirical analysis of “real-world” fatal and nonfatal TASER cases simultaneously. This article examines all media reports of TASER incidents from 2002 to 2006 through a comprehensive review of LexisNexis and New York Times archives. We compare TASER incidents in which a fatality occurred to TASER incidents in which a fatality did not occur and then employ multivariate analyses to identify the incident and suspect characteristics that are predictive of articles describing TASER-proximate deaths.

Policy implications
Several suspect factors were significantly associated with the reporting of a fatal TASER incident, including drug use (but not alcohol), mental illness, and continued resistance. Multiple deployments of the TASER against a suspect was also associated with the likelihood of the article describing a fatality—especially if the suspect was emotionally disturbed— which raises the possibility that the risk of multiple shocks might not be uniform for all suspects. More research is needed to explore the relationship between mental illness, drug use (illicit or therapeutic), continued resistance, and increased risk of death. In the mean- time, police departments should develop specific policies and training governing the use

Do you understand what lethal weapon means? It means sufficient in and of itself to cause death. A taser is not sufficient to cause death on its own without other compounding factors therefore it is not considered lethal. A healthy person who is not on drugs is highly unlikely to die from being tasered alone.

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

A taser is not considered lethal force. Do you even know what happened?

The guy who was clearly distressed, unarmed and on the ground was tasered 4 times in 30 seconds.

You do know that tasers are linked to hundreds of police induced deaths? Tasers are regarded as less lethal restraining device not non lethal device.

They should have called the LAPD mental health unit to deal with him humanely

Examining fatal and nonfatal
incidents involving the TASER
Identifying predictors of suspect death reported in the media
Michael d. White
Justin ready
Arizona State University
research summary

According to TASER International, nearly 10,000 police departments in the United States have deployed the TASER as a less lethal force alternative in some capacity. Despite the TASER’s increasing popularity, serious questions have been raised about the device’s physi- ological side effects; in particular, Amnesty International has reported that more than 300 people have died after being subjected to the TASER. Although a growing body of research has examined the physiological effects of the TASER on animals and healthy human vol- unteers in laboratory settings, there has been virtually no empirical analysis of “real-world” fatal and nonfatal TASER cases simultaneously. This article examines all media reports of TASER incidents from 2002 to 2006 through a comprehensive review of LexisNexis and New York Times archives. We compare TASER incidents in which a fatality occurred to TASER incidents in which a fatality did not occur and then employ multivariate analyses to identify the incident and suspect characteristics that are predictive of articles describing TASER-proximate deaths.

Policy implications
Several suspect factors were significantly associated with the reporting of a fatal TASER incident, including drug use (but not alcohol), mental illness, and continued resistance. Multiple deployments of the TASER against a suspect was also associated with the likelihood of the article describing a fatality—especially if the suspect was emotionally disturbed— which raises the possibility that the risk of multiple shocks might not be uniform for all suspects. More research is needed to explore the relationship between mental illness, drug use (illicit or therapeutic), continued resistance, and increased risk of death. In the mean- time, police departments should develop specific policies and training governing the use

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

A taser is not considered lethal force. Do you even know what happened?

Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.

I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.

But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents

he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.

He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.

Just stop this right now. He was in the wrong and people like you will never see that.

DP. He should most likely be in jail. Alive. I hope you can see the difference between the two

I hope YOU can see the difference between someone following the rules and this guy. Why can’t people just sit down when requested? He ran into the middle of the road and didn’t follow instructions. I guess if he got hit by a car you’d blame that on police as well. Just and fyi the rest of us are TIRED of fake racism. I’m the LA poster and at the protest location in my neighborhood) where there is always someone protesting (and often I will honk in agreement) there was one person there yesterday with their police brutality sign. One. The rest of us understand this is NOT George Floyd. Stop trying to make fetch happen. You’re not going to spread lies about my city. Gtfo.

So if your loved one gets killed by police for a traffic stop, you're fine with it? Because he didn't follow the rules? The punishment is death if you don't listen.

I have a feeling that you don't think the punishment is death when it's you and yours. That's not fake racism.

Do I think this is okay? No, obviously. But I would also be able to see, after watching the video, the part my loved one played in this situation. But you only see racism and police brutality in everything. You can’t see what other people see, and maybe that’s because of your own lives experience. The rest of us don’t see what you are seeing.

That is because you are a white woman, and you sit comfortably in the fact that this will likely never happen to you and yours. So you can sit in your bubble and make judgements knowing that you will suffer nothing near the same.

"you sit comfortably in the fact that this will likely never happen to you and yours.So you can sit in your bubble and make judgements knowing that you will suffer nothing near the same."

What that a family member who is a teacher, its the middle of a school day and they are high on cocaine and weed, causing car accidents by running in the middle of the road, and not obeying police instruction? Yeah, don't think that will happen. Also, why are you ASSuming the poster is white? That's called a "judgement." POT meet kettle.

DP

And how do you know Keenan was high on drugs? Erratic behavior can be caused by many things. This is an anonymous forum and unless posters indicate personal details, we cannot know. Even then we don’t know.

THERE WE GO you didn't even watch the video, the whole video because if you did you would know they went over which drugs where in his system from the hospital tests. You were off to the races without even knowing the full story. It makes sense now.

Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.