Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:30
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Commended is like 'nice try', but no award for you. Bury it.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:29
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
don't think it really matters as schools have SAT scores....
only matters where it means you qualify for a merit award
only matters where it means you qualify for a merit award
Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:27
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:DD did, and she put it on applications, but I really don’t think it matters much. She also had high SAT scores, which obviously is more important. This TJ thing is overblown, although its dumb that the school did not deliver the certificates.
It is meaningless. Most schools are disregarding standard test scores because of cheating. These crazy parents can't accept that it's changed.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:25
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Then WHAT DO YOU THINK the National Merit recognition is based on.
College admissions departments aren't dumb. You want them to play dumb when it benefits your kid......
You either submit your SAT/ACTscore or not. You can attempt to back-door it, but it won't matter. If you are hiding something, there must be a reason.....
College admissions departments aren't dumb. You want them to play dumb when it benefits your kid......
You either submit your SAT/ACTscore or not. You can attempt to back-door it, but it won't matter. If you are hiding something, there must be a reason.....
Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:22
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:Commended = Honorable mention (at best).
Neither the NMSC or top colleges give a hoot about "commended" status.
The elite colleges rarely include the number of NM finalists in their "at a glance," "FAQs," or "class profiles." Commended status simply does not register.
No commended student was harmed. Your SAT score spoke for itself when submitted. Your PSAT score is not required or expected.
COMMENDED STUDENTS DO NOT CONTINUE IN THE COMPETITION FOR NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARSHIPS.
From the NMSC:
In late September, more than two-thirds (about 34,000) of the approximately 50,000 high scorers on the PSAT/NMSQT receive Letters of Commendation in recognition of their outstanding academic promise. Commended Students are named based on a nationally applied Selection Index score that may vary from year to year and is typically below the level required for participants to be named Semifinalists in their respective states. Although Commended Students do not continue in the competition for National Merit Scholarships, some of these students do become candidates for Special Scholarships sponsored by corporations and businesses.
As others have mentioned, colleges that are test blind do NOT look at scores. And, not everyone is applying to the top 20.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 14:07
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Commended = Honorable mention (at best).
Neither the NMSC or top colleges give a hoot about "commended" status.
The elite colleges rarely include the number of NM finalists in their "at a glance," "FAQs," or "class profiles." Commended status simply does not register.
No commended student was harmed. Your SAT score spoke for itself when submitted. Your PSAT score is not required or expected.
COMMENDED STUDENTS DO NOT CONTINUE IN THE COMPETITION FOR NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARSHIPS.
From the NMSC:
In late September, more than two-thirds (about 34,000) of the approximately 50,000 high scorers on the PSAT/NMSQT receive Letters of Commendation in recognition of their outstanding academic promise. Commended Students are named based on a nationally applied Selection Index score that may vary from year to year and is typically below the level required for participants to be named Semifinalists in their respective states. Although Commended Students do not continue in the competition for National Merit Scholarships, some of these students do become candidates for Special Scholarships sponsored by corporations and businesses.
Neither the NMSC or top colleges give a hoot about "commended" status.
The elite colleges rarely include the number of NM finalists in their "at a glance," "FAQs," or "class profiles." Commended status simply does not register.
No commended student was harmed. Your SAT score spoke for itself when submitted. Your PSAT score is not required or expected.
COMMENDED STUDENTS DO NOT CONTINUE IN THE COMPETITION FOR NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARSHIPS.
From the NMSC:
In late September, more than two-thirds (about 34,000) of the approximately 50,000 high scorers on the PSAT/NMSQT receive Letters of Commendation in recognition of their outstanding academic promise. Commended Students are named based on a nationally applied Selection Index score that may vary from year to year and is typically below the level required for participants to be named Semifinalists in their respective states. Although Commended Students do not continue in the competition for National Merit Scholarships, some of these students do become candidates for Special Scholarships sponsored by corporations and businesses.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 12:57
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only reason this thread was started was so that some right winger could see if they could get more votes if they continue to overblown a “controversy”. about TJ.
Please see the article in the Fairfax Times. This is happening at other schools. In addition, the article discusses the equity consultant FCPS hired for half a million who says,
"The goal is equal outcomes,” Fagbayi explained. “And what we need to be equitable about is the access. In a very real sense, many districts struggle with this. To have true equity, you have to be purposefully unequal when it comes to resources. I want to say that again because most districts struggle with that. To have an equity-centered organization, we have to have the courage and the willingness to be purposefully unequal when it comes to opportunities and access,”
Do you think this is fake news?
Can't believe this! What a world!
My kid did not list the award because we learned there was such an award on December, 2022. He had submitted all his applications by that time. Not sure about its importance, but we were disappointed at a high school which claims it supports and facilitates each, and every student's success. It is obvious the principle and student service do not care about the success of my kid.
Oh, the quota did not show. I was responding to:
To have an equity-centered organization, we have to have the courage and the willingness to be purposefully unequal when it comes to opportunities and access,”
Anonymous
01/08/2023 12:55
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only reason this thread was started was so that some right winger could see if they could get more votes if they continue to overblown a “controversy”. about TJ.
Please see the article in the Fairfax Times. This is happening at other schools. In addition, the article discusses the equity consultant FCPS hired for half a million who says,
"The goal is equal outcomes,” Fagbayi explained. “And what we need to be equitable about is the access. In a very real sense, many districts struggle with this. To have true equity, you have to be purposefully unequal when it comes to resources. I want to say that again because most districts struggle with that. To have an equity-centered organization, we have to have the courage and the willingness to be purposefully unequal when it comes to opportunities and access,”
Do you think this is fake news?
Can't believe this! What a world!
My kid did not list the award because we learned there was such an award on December, 2022. He had submitted all his applications by that time. Not sure about its importance, but we were disappointed at a high school which claims it supports and facilitates each, and every student's success. It is obvious the principle and student service do not care about the success of my kid.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 10:32
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
My oldest was a NMF and my youngest was a commended student. They both put the award (it is a great honor) on their applications. I don’t their effects the admissions outcome. I think schools looks at many elements when making decisions.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 10:17
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:Don’t twist yourself into knots over a test that comes before the SAT and ACT. For the schools that care about testing, they’re looking at the SAT and ACT. The PSAT does not matter. Talk to some admissions officers and ask them.
Or don’t and keep writing articles for “news” websites that rely on clickbait.
Not the writer of the article. Stop trying to sweep it under the rug. If this is the direction fcps is going, parents should know and be asking how their kids may be impacted.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 10:15
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote: Republicans would love to shut down TJ and go back to private schools having the educational advantage.
This is incredibly stupid. The kids at private schools are overwhelmingly the children of Democrats. Shutting down TJ would make the Democrats happy. Moreover, it is the Democrats who want to ruin TJ by turning it into "entry by quota" rather than "entry by merit".
Anonymous
01/08/2023 10:11
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Anonymous wrote:DC almost did not include it because they ran out of space on the common app. Ended up putting it down and removing a school-based award. In my opinion, this award really did not matter because their SAT was high, so the commended award was not proving anything that the colleges would not know. Anyway got into their ED school in December - a T25 school.
TJ doesn’t give school based awards while counselors recommend not to leave the awards slots blank. So do you think everyone won 5 regional, state or national awards?
Anonymous
01/08/2023 10:05
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Mine did. She made NMSF but bombed the SAT, so this would give colleges reference. Besides there really weren’t that many awards she could list for the 5 slots on commonapp. Her high school doesn’t give any academic excellence awards, by subject or overall, principal’s list, improvement award, student of the month, etc. So, being a NMSF or commended definitely matters.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 09:49
Subject: How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
Don’t twist yourself into knots over a test that comes before the SAT and ACT. For the schools that care about testing, they’re looking at the SAT and ACT. The PSAT does not matter. Talk to some admissions officers and ask them.
Or don’t and keep writing articles for “news” websites that rely on clickbait.
Or don’t and keep writing articles for “news” websites that rely on clickbait.
Anonymous
01/08/2023 09:44
Subject: Re:How many here had students that missed being NMSF and were Commended instead
^^Sorry meant to reply to 3rd party comment.