Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
Under 18, we 100% get a say…and probably veto power
If I have to pay for said choice for 18 years, it isn’t actually my child’s choice
This is the absolute truth.
+1. You will not be able to force any child to have an abortion. As a parent, if you live in a state with parental consent, you may be able to prevent your DC from getting an abortion.
Not sure why you think you will have to “pay for said choice for 18 years”.
The 18 yo mother and father are legally and financially responsible for your grandchild.
You think you have a say, but legally you absolutely don't. Do you think any doctor will prescribe a morning after pill or preform an abortion on a 17 year old who is adamant that they don't want the procedure?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? 1000% support my daughter to choose what she does with her body. And no, it’s not a BaBy! At 20 weeks a clump of cells the size of a golfball. If she needed later, I would trust what her doctor said. So unAmerican to be against a woman’s right to control her own destiny.
20 weeks? I only ever knew of one personally that had no knowledge at 16 weeks plus they were pregnant. Obese. I'm pro choice and the decision needs to be made far earlier than 20 weeks. VA had some weird proposed legislation that with a 1 doctor sign off could have allowed a fulll term healthy to be deemed a product. Yes that's ghoulish.
I have no idea if a DD or partner of a DS ever had one. If so it would have been before anyone familiar with them would have thought are they pregnant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
And this is the distinction that I believe OP is trying to get people to recognize. There is: anti-abortion (anti-choice type 1), prochoice, and pro-abortion (anti-choice type 2).
I don't think this is accurate.
You are pro-choice if you wouldn't force anyone to do as you wish.
But you can definitely very strongly disapprove of one of the choices. You wouldn't force your daughter to abort OR to keep the baby, but you can make your strong disapproval of one of these choices known. That doesn't make you antichoice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
And this is the distinction that I believe OP is trying to get people to recognize. There is: anti-abortion (anti-choice type 1), prochoice, and pro-abortion (anti-choice type 2).
Anonymous wrote:Meaning if your 17 or 23 year old daughter got pregnant, you’d emotionally support her 100% whether she decides to have and raise the kid, abort or give the kid up for adoption?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
And this is the distinction that I believe OP is trying to get people to recognize. There is: anti-abortion (anti-choice type 1), prochoice, and pro-abortion (anti-choice type 2).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
Under 18, we 100% get a say…and probably veto power
If I have to pay for said choice for 18 years, it isn’t actually my child’s choice
This is the absolute truth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m in the “babies are expensive” camp
I’m not raising my grandchildren unless absolutely necessary.
I’ve watched my husband’s family deal with the consequences of these decisions and I am NOT going to have my grown children bringing kids into my home to live pet a do until they are 18. No way.
I will encourage abortion and make clear to my children that are still not financially independent that we cannot care for or pay for babies they bring into this world. It is their responsibility to do so.
So, would that mean shuffling your daughter and grandchild out of the house? If you saved for her college tuition, is that withheld only if and until she goes to college?
DP but do you not know how college savings accounts work? Hint: they can be used only for education purposes.
Hint: not everyone uses a college savings account to save for college tuition.
Well you didn’t specify.
And anyway, of course money saved for college should be used for that purpose. What kind of odd question is that? Especially important if someone becomes a parent at an extremely young age - this is one of the biggest factors in women experiencing poverty, having children too young and therefore not going to college or dropping out of college. Making sure a young mother gets through college can elevate a family’s economic situation. Doesn’t everyone realize this? The younger a woman is when she becomes a mother, the more negatively it affects her lifetime earnings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Same here. I guess that doesn't make me 100% pro-choice since I wouldn't exactly want my 17 year old DD to have a choice other than to have an abortion.
Anonymous wrote:At 17 I would probably try to guide my child to have an abortion, depending on how far along she was.
At 23 I would support whatever choice she wanted, assuming she doesn’t have a problems with substance abuse that would impact the pregnancy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would have some concerns about adoption but ultimately it would be her choice.
Actually, many adoptions these days are open. The birth grandparents still get to stay in contact sometimes.
And why I would hope DC would not consider adoption. The adoptive parents are the ones with the least rights in these situations, which is not ok. And before you jump on me for this opinion, which I don't really care anyway, one of my parents was adopted so I saw this up close and personal.
open adoptions are only as open as the Adoptive parents allow. If they want to cut off contact there's nothing the grandparents or first parents can do.
not true. new york passed a low making it mandatory. also more states are passing laws requiring adoptive parents abide by the law.
google it.
Anonymous wrote:I am pro-legal abortion. I am pro-choice in cases where there is a medical reason for aborting or involves rape/incest. But I think abortion is morally wrong when used as a form of birth control.
But those are MY moral values and I am not the one having an abortion.