Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:37
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Get him an IEP. Once he has one he can't be separate.
This is absolutely false. Children with IEPs are more often seated near the teacher. It’s the preferential seating accommodation.
Yes but seated near the teacher doesn’t usually mean totally separate from the rest of the classmates. I think OP needs clarification on what this looks like in the classroom.
I don't OP actually knows what is going on in the classroom. Larlo is upset because the teacher put him in the corner of the table that's literally right in front of her desk. He has to sit next to her at circle time, and he gets pulled to her desk during independent table work so his classmates can do their worksheet/read a book/get computer time without distraction. I GUARANTEE that's what happening, but OP believes her son who says he's seated at a dunce table all by himself.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:35
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Get him an IEP. Once he has one he can't be separate.
This is absolutely false. Children with IEPs are more often seated near the teacher. It’s the preferential seating accommodation.
And the truth is....with so many kids now getting 504s and IEPs, just how many kids can sit close to the teacher?
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:34
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I have a well behaved kid and I thought I was imagining it when he was always put in the class with all the bad kids and all the ESOL kids. It just felt like he was always with the bad kids. Several years later, another mom told me it was called balancing. She said they would put all the kids who needed support in a class so the aids didn’t jump from multiple classrooms in the same grade. They would then add the better behaved kids to the same class to make it easier for the teacher. Maybe better for the teacher but worse for my kid. I was glad to know that I wasn’t imagining it.
He is now in middle school and kids are separated by ability.
This thread is now appalling. The entitlement and privilege of some families is unbearable.
Entitlement and privilege of "ADHD" kids taking all the resources away from other children?
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:32
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
All because one teacher in first grade tried to help him focus, right?
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:31
Subject: Re:Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I don’t think my post came out the way I intended. I do not think it is fair to have one kid take up all the attention of the teacher whether the child is special needs or just poorly behaved. Both my older sons are in AAP in FCPS and the only real difference I see is that the kids are better behaved. My kids have not mentioned a disruptive kid in class for years.
Are you the lady who on the AAP thread said that every normal classroom should have an aide assigned for special needs kids like it would be oh-so-easy to do that?
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:18
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I have a well behaved kid and I thought I was imagining it when he was always put in the class with all the bad kids and all the ESOL kids. It just felt like he was always with the bad kids. Several years later, another mom told me it was called balancing. She said they would put all the kids who needed support in a class so the aids didn’t jump from multiple classrooms in the same grade. They would then add the better behaved kids to the same class to make it easier for the teacher. Maybe better for the teacher but worse for my kid. I was glad to know that I wasn’t imagining it.
He is now in middle school and kids are separated by ability.
The ESOL kids?! How terrible. It’s not like your child could learn anything about different cultures, languages and experiences from being in a class with non English speaking children.
Even if a class has the ESOL kids or the Sped kids for the purpose of allowing for the ESOL and special teachers to push into the classroom, there is a ratio of special Ed to general Ed children that must be maintained, or else it is not considered a general education class. I’m not sure what the exact ratio is, but the number of gen Ed students far outnumbers the special Ed (think in a class of 25, about 5 or 6 would have IEPs). I actually enjoy teaching in these classrooms because you are given lots of support and the children have already been identified as needing special education. Often, it is the unidentified children in the other classes who are much more difficult because their needs are not understood and they have no additional supports. There are many advantages to having your “good” child in a class like this. Aside from the obvious benefit of learning that others may be different but still have strengths and gifts, I often felt like I had more time with my “typical” students because I often had additional adults in the room.
My son is now 13 and in 8th grade. This was back in he was in first grade so seven years ago. He switched to an AAP center in third grade.
My daughter is in a class with the special education kids. I believe all the ESOL kids are in another class. When my son was in first grade, I am pretty sure all the ESOL and SpEd students were in his class. In that year, there were only 2 classes in first grade.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:11
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I have a well behaved kid and I thought I was imagining it when he was always put in the class with all the bad kids and all the ESOL kids. It just felt like he was always with the bad kids. Several years later, another mom told me it was called balancing. She said they would put all the kids who needed support in a class so the aids didn’t jump from multiple classrooms in the same grade. They would then add the better behaved kids to the same class to make it easier for the teacher. Maybe better for the teacher but worse for my kid. I was glad to know that I wasn’t imagining it.
He is now in middle school and kids are separated by ability.
The ESOL kids?! How terrible. It’s not like your child could learn anything about different cultures, languages and experiences from being in a class with non English speaking children.
Even if a class has the ESOL kids or the Sped kids for the purpose of allowing for the ESOL and special teachers to push into the classroom, there is a ratio of special Ed to general Ed children that must be maintained, or else it is not considered a general education class. I’m not sure what the exact ratio is, but the number of gen Ed students far outnumbers the special Ed (think in a class of 25, about 5 or 6 would have IEPs). I actually enjoy teaching in these classrooms because you are given lots of support and the children have already been identified as needing special education. Often, it is the unidentified children in the other classes who are much more difficult because their needs are not understood and they have no additional supports. There are many advantages to having your “good” child in a class like this. Aside from the obvious benefit of learning that others may be different but still have strengths and gifts, I often felt like I had more time with my “typical” students because I often had additional adults in the room.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 19:04
Subject: Re:Kid separated from classmates at school
It could be ASD Level 1, not ADHD. Anyways, I recommend getting assessment, and have 504 plan in place, no IEP. You can get in AAP class if you qualify even with ASD Level 1.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:50
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I was the good quiet kid who didn't tattle, so I always sat next to the troublemakers. I was consistently the highest performer in the class, went to a University DCUM loves (T10) and have a rewarding career working with kids with disabilities that cause challenging behaviors.
Love this response!
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:31
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Get him an IEP. Once he has one he can't be separate.
This is absolutely false. Children with IEPs are more often seated near the teacher. It’s the preferential seating accommodation.
Yes but seated near the teacher doesn’t usually mean totally separate from the rest of the classmates. I think OP needs clarification on what this looks like in the classroom.
OP probably exaggerated. Classrooms aren’t big enough to have a teacher desk very far away from student desks. Teachers can’t even put disruptive students in the hallways. That said, when one of my brothers was in second grade, he was so disruptive that his teacher made him sit in the prep room, which was a windowless, glorified closet. This was only after my parents refused to leave work every day to pick my brother up. They also refused at this point to medicate him. My parents filed a complaint and got a hearing. My brother was placed at a school with a program for elementary students with behavioral issues due to severe ADHD. It took two years to get him out and by then, he was two years behind.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:30
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I have a well behaved kid and I thought I was imagining it when he was always put in the class with all the bad kids and all the ESOL kids. It just felt like he was always with the bad kids. Several years later, another mom told me it was called balancing. She said they would put all the kids who needed support in a class so the aids didn’t jump from multiple classrooms in the same grade. They would then add the better behaved kids to the same class to make it easier for the teacher. Maybe better for the teacher but worse for my kid. I was glad to know that I wasn’t imagining it.
He is now in middle school and kids are separated by ability.
This thread is now appalling. The entitlement and privilege of some families is unbearable.
I think it is terrible that schools put all the bad kids in one class and throw my good kid in there. Yes, I think that is wrong. If I knew back then that this was happening, I would have said something. I had no idea. I just felt like my kid was neglected and that year after year, it seemed like all the bad kids were in his class.
Can you imagine a whole class full of kids like OP’s? I don’t want my kid in that class.
I feel the same as you OP. I could have written the exact same. My kid is repeatedly put in classes with several kids who need 1:1 help. I thought that maybe all classroom are like that but I am starting to doubt it. There are 3 adults daily in his classroom, but it's apparently not enough. At some point, I would like my kid to be considered as something else than a buffer and someone who can be ignored.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:22
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:This is why teachers are so frustrated and want to quit. A kid talks too much so has to sit by the teacher. Totally normal consequence that works. Teachers have been doing this for years and years.
Crazy parent thinks this is too mean and her snowflake should be allowed to disrupt others because it makes him feel bad when he doesn’t get to do whatever he wants.
+1
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:22
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC is at the same table with a boy shouting constantly and never listen to teachers. Another kid at the same class would also scream and cry. My DC told us she’s so tired and depressed but what can we do? I’m sorry for those kids have ADHD or whatever but why is my child the one suffers?
Your child will be fine. The ADHD kid - will most likely suffer from debilitating self-esteem issues as he transitions into adolescence, start to not care about school and underperform, and struggle his whole life to maintain healthy relationships. Your daughter will be taking her AP classes and will not have to worry about having those crazy, disruptive kids in her classes anymore.
Nope, I was one of the "good" kids and teachers would use me to separate the bad actors. I did ok, but never succeeded like the kids who weren't used as human shields around the problem kids.
I have a well behaved kid and I thought I was imagining it when he was always put in the class with all the bad kids and all the ESOL kids. It just felt like he was always with the bad kids. Several years later, another mom told me it was called balancing. She said they would put all the kids who needed support in a class so the aids didn’t jump from multiple classrooms in the same grade. They would then add the better behaved kids to the same class to make it easier for the teacher. Maybe better for the teacher but worse for my kid. I was glad to know that I wasn’t imagining it.
He is now in middle school and kids are separated by ability.
This thread is now appalling. The entitlement and privilege of some families is unbearable.
I think it is terrible that schools put all the bad kids in one class and throw my good kid in there. Yes, I think that is wrong. If I knew back then that this was happening, I would have said something. I had no idea. I just felt like my kid was neglected and that year after year, it seemed like all the bad kids were in his class.
Can you imagine a whole class full of kids like OP’s? I don’t want my kid in that class.
I think it's terrible to classify kids as good and bad, but if the whole class was "bad" kids and your kid was in the class, then he wasn't "good"
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:20
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Get him an IEP. Once he has one he can't be separate.
This is absolutely false. Children with IEPs are more often seated near the teacher. It’s the preferential seating accommodation.
Yes but seated near the teacher doesn’t usually mean totally separate from the rest of the classmates. I think OP needs clarification on what this looks like in the classroom.
Anonymous
12/30/2022 17:15
Subject: Kid separated from classmates at school
Anonymous wrote:Get him an IEP. Once he has one he can't be separate.
This is absolutely false. Children with IEPs are more often seated near the teacher. It’s the preferential seating accommodation.