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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield (not Springfield Mall area) or Burke townhouses unless you want a real rough fixer upper. Stay away from Annandale, Alexandria and Fairfax.

What’s wrong with Annandale (outside the beltway) and Fairfax, which is HUGE?

I live in Annandale inside the beltway, it’s fine. Do you live there? If not perhaps you and others should not weigh in when you have no personal experience.

Only problem is that Annandale is the opposite of what OP is looking for: Good schools. Annandale is one of the worst, most underfunded school pyramids in FxCo

What are you talking about, you idiot?

Annandale gets more funding from FCPS than most pyramids, not less.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield (not Springfield Mall area) or Burke townhouses unless you want a real rough fixer upper. Stay away from Annandale, Alexandria and Fairfax.

What’s wrong with Annandale (outside the beltway) and Fairfax, which is HUGE?

I live in Annandale inside the beltway, it’s fine. Do you live there? If not perhaps you and others should not weigh in when you have no personal experience.

Only problem is that Annandale is the opposite of what OP is looking for: Good schools. Annandale is one of the worst, most underfunded school pyramids in FxCo

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Anonymous wrote:Also, keep in mind that there are no bad school pyramids in Fairfax County, where the schools are all at least good. Some high schools send more kids to more competitive colleges and universities, but a motivated and talented individual with engaged and supportive parents can do well from any County high school.

This is BS. Some of the worst school pyramids in the DC area (aside from PGCPS) are in Fairfax County. OP, pyramids you will want to avoid are Falls Church, Edison, Westfield, Herndon, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Lee, West Potomac, Justice, Hayfield. Those schools are almost entirely reliant on school lunch rations, and are heavy minority, mostly from Latin America. I honestly wouldn’t recommend any high school in FCPS, Langley is the bottom line but it is rapidly declining and will get zoned with some kids from Tyson’s, which will ruin its composition.

It’s hard to write something this long that is this factually inaccurate, but you may have pulled it off.

The lowest performing pyramids in FCPS have counterparts in both Arlington and Montgomery.

Of the 10 pyramids mentioned, none is almost entirely “reliant on school lunch rations.” Five are probably majority Hispanic (Falls Church, Herndon, Mount Vernon, Lewis, and Justice), but each also has significant numbers of middle and upper middle class kids and offers a full menu of AP or IB courses.

There is no plan to move any of Tysons to Langley, although doing so would hardly “ruin its composition.” Do you have any idea how expensive Tyson’s is?

In short, you are either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting facts, and this forum will just become increasingly worthless unless Jeff starts banning posters like you for posting nonsense.

If you look at school board meetings, they are in fact proposing expanding Langleys boundaries to include parts of southern Mclean/Tyson’s. If you look up the zip codes for said areas of Tyson’s, yes they are still expensive, but not nearly as high as Great Falls/Mclean. Said zip codes are majority hispanic, which is a FACT, and is far higher than the percentage of hispanics at Langley, which is close to 0. I am not saying that in a subjective manner, but rather using objective statistics. Take a look at what happened at Mclean HS, they were rezoned to include parts of Falls Church/ Tyson’s which significantly altered the ethnic makeup. Again, which is not a good or bad thing, but rather just objective facts for OP

You continue to mangle the facts and post incorrect information.

There is no pending proposal to change Langley’s boundaries.

Tysons does not have a separate zip code. Part is 22182 (Vienna); the rest is 22102 (McLean). Both of these zip codes are quite expensive and not even close to being majority low-income or majority Hispanic.

The area in Falls Church that you’re talking about at McLean HS got moved there in the mid-80s. It hasn’t stopped McLean from being the second or third highest-ranked school in Virginia for many years since then.

The Hispanic population in NoVa is not uniformly poor, as you seem to think. Langley was 7% Hispanic last year, not “close to 0%.”

It’s quite sad that a corrupt deteriorating school like Mclean is supposedly ranked number 3 in Virginia. Those rankings are full of it anyways, fairfax probably pays Niche and them to put their schools on the top. I mean Marshall top 5? Really? I’m in the Langley pyramid and i would never send my kids to Langley, let alone Marshall.

No one who lives in the Langley district would be as misinformed about the surrounding area as you’ve already demonstrated you are.

Get lost, troll.

No one is misinformed, just the fact. We live in Great Falls for rural, open feel while also having the amenity of being able to commute to the city in 30 minutes. We never even considered the public school pyramid that was default, because as many have said, regardless of what public school you go to, whether it be langley or edison, the curriculum and available resources are the same. Our entire neighborhood thinks that way, almost 40% of our block goes to private.

Yeah, right. Every post of yours is utter BS.

But enjoy that mythical 30-minute commute from Great Falls to DC (at 6 AM?) while touting private schools (of which there is but one, all-girls in Great Falls).

You are a fraud.

You seem to not know anything about Great Falls Thankfully we have the American Legion Bridge at our doorstep 10 minutes away, allowing for us and our DC to cross into Maryland for additional schooling options. And yes, we leave by 6am to drop the kids off.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, keep in mind that there are no bad school pyramids in Fairfax County, where the schools are all at least good. Some high schools send more kids to more competitive colleges and universities, but a motivated and talented individual with engaged and supportive parents can do well from any County high school.

This is BS. Some of the worst school pyramids in the DC area (aside from PGCPS) are in Fairfax County. OP, pyramids you will want to avoid are Falls Church, Edison, Westfield, Herndon, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Lee, West Potomac, Justice, Hayfield. Those schools are almost entirely reliant on school lunch rations, and are heavy minority, mostly from Latin America. I honestly wouldn’t recommend any high school in FCPS, Langley is the bottom line but it is rapidly declining and will get zoned with some kids from Tyson’s, which will ruin its composition.

It’s hard to write something this long that is this factually inaccurate, but you may have pulled it off.

The lowest performing pyramids in FCPS have counterparts in both Arlington and Montgomery.

Of the 10 pyramids mentioned, none is almost entirely “reliant on school lunch rations.” Five are probably majority Hispanic (Falls Church, Herndon, Mount Vernon, Lewis, and Justice), but each also has significant numbers of middle and upper middle class kids and offers a full menu of AP or IB courses.

There is no plan to move any of Tysons to Langley, although doing so would hardly “ruin its composition.” Do you have any idea how expensive Tyson’s is?

In short, you are either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting facts, and this forum will just become increasingly worthless unless Jeff starts banning posters like you for posting nonsense.

If you look at school board meetings, they are in fact proposing expanding Langleys boundaries to include parts of southern Mclean/Tyson’s. If you look up the zip codes for said areas of Tyson’s, yes they are still expensive, but not nearly as high as Great Falls/Mclean. Said zip codes are majority hispanic, which is a FACT, and is far higher than the percentage of hispanics at Langley, which is close to 0. I am not saying that in a subjective manner, but rather using objective statistics. Take a look at what happened at Mclean HS, they were rezoned to include parts of Falls Church/ Tyson’s which significantly altered the ethnic makeup. Again, which is not a good or bad thing, but rather just objective facts for OP

You continue to mangle the facts and post incorrect information.

There is no pending proposal to change Langley’s boundaries.

Tysons does not have a separate zip code. Part is 22182 (Vienna); the rest is 22102 (McLean). Both of these zip codes are quite expensive and not even close to being majority low-income or majority Hispanic.

The area in Falls Church that you’re talking about at McLean HS got moved there in the mid-80s. It hasn’t stopped McLean from being the second or third highest-ranked school in Virginia for many years since then.

The Hispanic population in NoVa is not uniformly poor, as you seem to think. Langley was 7% Hispanic last year, not “close to 0%.”

It’s quite sad that a corrupt deteriorating school like Mclean is supposedly ranked number 3 in Virginia. Those rankings are full of it anyways, fairfax probably pays Niche and them to put their schools on the top. I mean Marshall top 5? Really? I’m in the Langley pyramid and i would never send my kids to Langley, let alone Marshall.

No one who lives in the Langley district would be as misinformed about the surrounding area as you’ve already demonstrated you are.

Get lost, troll.

No one is misinformed, just the fact. We live in Great Falls for rural, open feel while also having the amenity of being able to commute to the city in 30 minutes. We never even considered the public school pyramid that was default, because as many have said, regardless of what public school you go to, whether it be langley or edison, the curriculum and available resources are the same. Our entire neighborhood thinks that way, almost 40% of our block goes to private.

Yeah, right. Every post of yours is utter BS.

But enjoy that mythical 30-minute commute from Great Falls to DC (at 6 AM?) while touting private schools (of which there is but one, all-girls in Great Falls).

You are a fraud.

You seem to not know anything about Great Falls Thankfully we have the American Legion Bridge at our doorstep 10 minutes away, allowing for us and our DC to cross into Maryland for additional schooling options. And yes, we leave by 6am to drop the kids off.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, keep in mind that there are no bad school pyramids in Fairfax County, where the schools are all at least good. Some high schools send more kids to more competitive colleges and universities, but a motivated and talented individual with engaged and supportive parents can do well from any County high school.

This is BS. Some of the worst school pyramids in the DC area (aside from PGCPS) are in Fairfax County. OP, pyramids you will want to avoid are Falls Church, Edison, Westfield, Herndon, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Lee, West Potomac, Justice, Hayfield. Those schools are almost entirely reliant on school lunch rations, and are heavy minority, mostly from Latin America. I honestly wouldn’t recommend any high school in FCPS, Langley is the bottom line but it is rapidly declining and will get zoned with some kids from Tyson’s, which will ruin its composition.

It’s hard to write something this long that is this factually inaccurate, but you may have pulled it off.

The lowest performing pyramids in FCPS have counterparts in both Arlington and Montgomery.

Of the 10 pyramids mentioned, none is almost entirely “reliant on school lunch rations.” Five are probably majority Hispanic (Falls Church, Herndon, Mount Vernon, Lewis, and Justice), but each also has significant numbers of middle and upper middle class kids and offers a full menu of AP or IB courses.

There is no plan to move any of Tysons to Langley, although doing so would hardly “ruin its composition.” Do you have any idea how expensive Tyson’s is?

In short, you are either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting facts, and this forum will just become increasingly worthless unless Jeff starts banning posters like you for posting nonsense.

If you look at school board meetings, they are in fact proposing expanding Langleys boundaries to include parts of southern Mclean/Tyson’s. If you look up the zip codes for said areas of Tyson’s, yes they are still expensive, but not nearly as high as Great Falls/Mclean. Said zip codes are majority hispanic, which is a FACT, and is far higher than the percentage of hispanics at Langley, which is close to 0. I am not saying that in a subjective manner, but rather using objective statistics. Take a look at what happened at Mclean HS, they were rezoned to include parts of Falls Church/ Tyson’s which significantly altered the ethnic makeup. Again, which is not a good or bad thing, but rather just objective facts for OP

You continue to mangle the facts and post incorrect information.

There is no pending proposal to change Langley’s boundaries.

Tysons does not have a separate zip code. Part is 22182 (Vienna); the rest is 22102 (McLean). Both of these zip codes are quite expensive and not even close to being majority low-income or majority Hispanic.

The area in Falls Church that you’re talking about at McLean HS got moved there in the mid-80s. It hasn’t stopped McLean from being the second or third highest-ranked school in Virginia for many years since then.

The Hispanic population in NoVa is not uniformly poor, as you seem to think. Langley was 7% Hispanic last year, not “close to 0%.”

It’s quite sad that a corrupt deteriorating school like Mclean is supposedly ranked number 3 in Virginia. Those rankings are full of it anyways, fairfax probably pays Niche and them to put their schools on the top. I mean Marshall top 5? Really? I’m in the Langley pyramid and i would never send my kids to Langley, let alone Marshall.

No one who lives in the Langley district would be as misinformed about the surrounding area as you’ve already demonstrated you are.

Get lost, troll.

No one is misinformed, just the fact. We live in Great Falls for rural, open feel while also having the amenity of being able to commute to the city in 30 minutes. We never even considered the public school pyramid that was default, because as many have said, regardless of what public school you go to, whether it be langley or edison, the curriculum and available resources are the same. Our entire neighborhood thinks that way, almost 40% of our block goes to private.

Yeah, right. Every post of yours is utter BS.

But enjoy that mythical 30-minute commute from Great Falls to DC (at 6 AM?) while touting private schools (of which there is but one, all-girls in Great Falls).

You are a fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield (not Springfield Mall area) or Burke townhouses unless you want a real rough fixer upper. Stay away from Annandale, Alexandria and Fairfax.

What’s wrong with Annandale (outside the beltway) and Fairfax, which is HUGE?

I live in Annandale inside the beltway, it’s fine. Do you live there? If not perhaps you and others should not weigh in when you have no personal experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you need to be in NoVa, OP?

Montgomery County is less expensive than Fairfax and Arlington. For example, the least expensive HS pyramid in Fairfax County is Lewis HS, where the average single-family house has sold for $655,000 over the past 12 months. In Montgomery, there are 11 pyramids (Damascus, Einstein, Gaithersburg, Kennedy, Magruder, Northwood, Paint Branch, Rockville, Springbrook, Watkins Mill, Wheaton) is lower. At least some of these (Damascus, Einstein, Magruder, Rockville, and Wheaton) are considered stronger than Lewis.

Op here and I was looking at Moco. I am open to VA and think the instate options for kids college would be better in VA. I have a few older relatives in Alexandria but schools do not matter from them. The aap sounded like a good program. I hear different things about moco schools. I was wondering if I should consider Fairfax

OP, if you WFH full time and don’t need to be close in, that 600k will go a lot further in Loudoun, Prince William (the Gainesville/Haymarket area), and Fauquier. If I was in your situation I wouldn’t bother with Fairfax and a potential fixer upper or TH vs. having a SFH a little further out. There are also good school pyramids in those counties that have more reasonably priced housing than close in.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, keep in mind that there are no bad school pyramids in Fairfax County, where the schools are all at least good. Some high schools send more kids to more competitive colleges and universities, but a motivated and talented individual with engaged and supportive parents can do well from any County high school.

This is BS. Some of the worst school pyramids in the DC area (aside from PGCPS) are in Fairfax County. OP, pyramids you will want to avoid are Falls Church, Edison, Westfield, Herndon, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Lee, West Potomac, Justice, Hayfield. Those schools are almost entirely reliant on school lunch rations, and are heavy minority, mostly from Latin America. I honestly wouldn’t recommend any high school in FCPS, Langley is the bottom line but it is rapidly declining and will get zoned with some kids from Tyson’s, which will ruin its composition.

It’s hard to write something this long that is this factually inaccurate, but you may have pulled it off.

The lowest performing pyramids in FCPS have counterparts in both Arlington and Montgomery.

Of the 10 pyramids mentioned, none is almost entirely “reliant on school lunch rations.” Five are probably majority Hispanic (Falls Church, Herndon, Mount Vernon, Lewis, and Justice), but each also has significant numbers of middle and upper middle class kids and offers a full menu of AP or IB courses.

There is no plan to move any of Tysons to Langley, although doing so would hardly “ruin its composition.” Do you have any idea how expensive Tyson’s is?

In short, you are either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting facts, and this forum will just become increasingly worthless unless Jeff starts banning posters like you for posting nonsense.

If you look at school board meetings, they are in fact proposing expanding Langleys boundaries to include parts of southern Mclean/Tyson’s. If you look up the zip codes for said areas of Tyson’s, yes they are still expensive, but not nearly as high as Great Falls/Mclean. Said zip codes are majority hispanic, which is a FACT, and is far higher than the percentage of hispanics at Langley, which is close to 0. I am not saying that in a subjective manner, but rather using objective statistics. Take a look at what happened at Mclean HS, they were rezoned to include parts of Falls Church/ Tyson’s which significantly altered the ethnic makeup. Again, which is not a good or bad thing, but rather just objective facts for OP

You are a couple years late to the party. They already changed the boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, keep in mind that there are no bad school pyramids in Fairfax County, where the schools are all at least good. Some high schools send more kids to more competitive colleges and universities, but a motivated and talented individual with engaged and supportive parents can do well from any County high school.

This is BS. Some of the worst school pyramids in the DC area (aside from PGCPS) are in Fairfax County. OP, pyramids you will want to avoid are Falls Church, Edison, Westfield, Herndon, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Lee, West Potomac, Justice, Hayfield. Those schools are almost entirely reliant on school lunch rations, and are heavy minority, mostly from Latin America. I honestly wouldn’t recommend any high school in FCPS, Langley is the bottom line but it is rapidly declining and will get zoned with some kids from Tyson’s, which will ruin its composition.

It’s hard to write something this long that is this factually inaccurate, but you may have pulled it off.

The lowest performing pyramids in FCPS have counterparts in both Arlington and Montgomery.

Of the 10 pyramids mentioned, none is almost entirely “reliant on school lunch rations.” Five are probably majority Hispanic (Falls Church, Herndon, Mount Vernon, Lewis, and Justice), but each also has significant numbers of middle and upper middle class kids and offers a full menu of AP or IB courses.

There is no plan to move any of Tysons to Langley, although doing so would hardly “ruin its composition.” Do you have any idea how expensive Tyson’s is?

In short, you are either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting facts, and this forum will just become increasingly worthless unless Jeff starts banning posters like you for posting nonsense.

If you look at school board meetings, they are in fact proposing expanding Langleys boundaries to include parts of southern Mclean/Tyson’s. If you look up the zip codes for said areas of Tyson’s, yes they are still expensive, but not nearly as high as Great Falls/Mclean. Said zip codes are majority hispanic, which is a FACT, and is far higher than the percentage of hispanics at Langley, which is close to 0. I am not saying that in a subjective manner, but rather using objective statistics. Take a look at what happened at Mclean HS, they were rezoned to include parts of Falls Church/ Tyson’s which significantly altered the ethnic makeup. Again, which is not a good or bad thing, but rather just objective facts for OP

You continue to mangle the facts and post incorrect information.

There is no pending proposal to change Langley’s boundaries.

Tysons does not have a separate zip code. Part is 22182 (Vienna); the rest is 22102 (McLean). Both of these zip codes are quite expensive and not even close to being majority low-income or majority Hispanic.

The area in Falls Church that you’re talking about at McLean HS got moved there in the mid-80s. It hasn’t stopped McLean from being the second or third highest-ranked school in Virginia for many years since then.

The Hispanic population in NoVa is not uniformly poor, as you seem to think. Langley was 7% Hispanic last year, not “close to 0%.”

It’s quite sad that a corrupt deteriorating school like Mclean is supposedly ranked number 3 in Virginia. Those rankings are full of it anyways, fairfax probably pays Niche and them to put their schools on the top. I mean Marshall top 5? Really? I’m in the Langley pyramid and i would never send my kids to Langley, let alone Marshall.

No one who lives in the Langley district would be as misinformed about the surrounding area as you’ve already demonstrated you are.

Get lost, troll.

No one is misinformed, just the fact. We live in Great Falls for rural, open feel while also having the amenity of being able to commute to the city in 30 minutes. We never even considered the public school pyramid that was default, because as many have said, regardless of what public school you go to, whether it be langley or edison, the curriculum and available resources are the same. Our entire neighborhood thinks that way, almost 40% of our block goes to private.

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Anonymous wrote:It's doubtful anyone *needs* 4 bedrooms. Double the kids up. Goodness, now many kids do you have? We have a dining room. No reason we couldn't put a bed in there instead of a dining set and it becomes a bedroom. Think creatively. Use the basement. Op, likely your best bet will be a townhouse in the HS pyramid of: West Springfield .. then maybe Robinson, Lake Braddock, Fairfax City, Woodson. Commute via the VRE.

NP. I have a special needs kid, and my children cannot double up because the other child deserves to sleep. We’d have a kid sleep with us before we’d leave them alone together. OP may have a genuine need for three bedrooms if he/she wfh.

Anonymous wrote:It's doubtful anyone *needs* 4 bedrooms. Double the kids up. Goodness, now many kids do you have? We have a dining room. No reason we couldn't put a bed in there instead of a dining set and it becomes a bedroom. Think creatively. Use the basement. Op, likely your best bet will be a townhouse in the HS pyramid of: West Springfield .. then maybe Robinson, Lake Braddock, Fairfax City, Woodson. Commute via the VRE.

Anonymous wrote:News flash- FCPS is not that great. There are multiple lawsuits about special ed, the reading curriculum has failed every kid for 20+ years, the office of civil rights is now investigating, the school board is crazy, the has been mismanagement about construction for years and schools are suffering, etc... stay in MD.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield (not Springfield Mall area) or Burke townhouses unless you want a real rough fixer upper. Stay away from Annandale, Alexandria and Fairfax.

What’s wrong with Annandale (outside the beltway) and Fairfax, which is HUGE?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you need to be in NoVa, OP?

Montgomery County is less expensive than Fairfax and Arlington. For example, the least expensive HS pyramid in Fairfax County is Lewis HS, where the average single-family house has sold for $655,000 over the past 12 months. In Montgomery, there are 11 pyramids (Damascus, Einstein, Gaithersburg, Kennedy, Magruder, Northwood, Paint Branch, Rockville, Springbrook, Watkins Mill, Wheaton) is lower. At least some of these (Damascus, Einstein, Magruder, Rockville, and Wheaton) are considered stronger than Lewis.

Op here and I was looking at Moco. I am open to VA and think the instate options for kids college would be better in VA. I have a few older relatives in Alexandria but schools do not matter from them. The aap sounded like a good program. I hear different things about moco schools. I was wondering if I should consider Fairfax

OP, if you WFH full time and don’t need to be close in, that 600k will go a lot further in Loudoun, Prince William (the Gainesville/Haymarket area), and Fauquier. If I was in your situation I wouldn’t bother with Fairfax and a potential fixer upper or TH vs. having a SFH a little further out. There are also good school pyramids in those counties that have more reasonably priced housing than close in.

Don’t live in Fauquier or any of the rural areas in Loudoun or Prince William. Everything is far, and the school systems tend to be worse. Look for the more popular areas in the two counties and find a good school pyramid.

If you don’t need to commute into DC, what exactly are you too far from? The Gainesville/Haymarket area has all the amenities you need along with easy access to hiking, wineries, breweries, and horse country. The Battlefield and Patriot HS pyramids in PW are good. In Fauquier, the Kettle Run pyramid is good as well. You do not need to cram your family into a tiny rambler or TH just to say you live in Fairfax. Since commute is not an issue there is no way I would live in crappy housing just to stay in Fairfax. And let’s be honest, all you get in Fairfax for 600k, whether it’s the school pyramid or the house itself, is crap.

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Anonymous wrote:News flash- FCPS is not that great. There are multiple lawsuits about special ed, the reading curriculum has failed every kid for 20+ years, the office of civil rights is now investigating, the school board is crazy, the has been mismanagement about construction for years and schools are suffering, etc... stay in MD.

+1. This countys school system has gone to hell. Only live here if you don’t have children so you don’t have to put them through constant vitriol.