Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 20:36     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:Why are you having all these social events during a COVID surge right before the holidays? I would decline to participate as well.


What Covid surge?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 20:35     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


You have your own religion? How did you start it?

BTW we serve mock tails my company and my wife attended twice when pregnant. She ate food, had a Virgin pina colada or a soda. I only drink 2-3 drinks as wife with me a boss. Very little drinking going on. I have more cokes and coffee then liquor


It's called Islam. There are a lot of countries where alcohol is forbidden. I guess you don't travel outside of the US much or have Muslim friends/co-workers.


And what’s wrong with that? So freaking entitled…
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 20:22     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:Fact of life business is a pyramid scheme. It is up or out. For every 55-65 year old person at work there are 10x the amount of 25-35 year old people.

The difference is literally attending work events. My old company 10 years ago had an event and people were asking where was I. When I got reached out to I realized not a single person out of the 10-15 people I actually worked with directly. All socializing. I have 95 percent of my connections through events. For instance one party back in 1997 we did mechanical Bull riding in suits. I got tossed hard so did my coworker. He happens to be a CEO now. I ran into him and he started laughing and joking about our bull ride from 25 years ago!! No way he would remember me otherwise

That’s great! In 1997, I was in the third grade.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 19:59     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:OP, you should be thrilled! Your job isn’t being threatened by your subordinates since they obviously lack the common sense and political savvy to see the networking opportunity right in front of them. Those kids will just quiet quit and lateral move to a different company and do the same.


And then OP will be on here complaining about why these young people keep leaving. She will be completely unable to see the connection.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 19:35     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Young workers aren't millenials! They are Gen Z!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 19:30     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:Why are you having all these social events during a COVID surge right before the holidays? I would decline to participate as well.


Please, stop.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 19:06     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


You have your own religion? How did you start it?

BTW we serve mock tails my company and my wife attended twice when pregnant. She ate food, had a Virgin pina colada or a soda. I only drink 2-3 drinks as wife with me a boss. Very little drinking going on. I have more cokes and coffee then liquor


It's called Islam. There are a lot of countries where alcohol is forbidden. I guess you don't travel outside of the US much or have Muslim friends/co-workers.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 19:04     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


No one is forcing you to drink alcohol.
You can have a ginger ale or sparkling water with lime.

Bunch of dimwits on this thread


Dimwits are the people who think cocktail parties at work should be mandatory.


You're right no one is forcing me, but going to a party centered around alcohol is also frowned upon.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 18:24     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


No one is forcing you to drink alcohol.
You can have a ginger ale or sparkling water with lime.

Bunch of dimwits on this thread


Dimwits are the people who think cocktail parties at work should be mandatory.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 18:23     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

OP, you should be thrilled! Your job isn’t being threatened by your subordinates since they obviously lack the common sense and political savvy to see the networking opportunity right in front of them. Those kids will just quiet quit and lateral move to a different company and do the same.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 18:19     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


No one is forcing you to drink alcohol.
You can have a ginger ale or sparkling water with lime.

Bunch of dimwits on this thread
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 18:11     Subject: Re:Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Gen Xer and I was told early in my career that all holiday parties or "fun" events are to be considered like a work obligation. You go to build relationships. These events were rarely mandatory, but people noticed who showed up. Talking to junior staff about their attendance would be helpful if they are unaware of the expectation to attend. However, it shouldn't be brought up in a performance review. It's something that a mentor would tell them as a tip on office culture. I'm assuming, too, that these junior staffers are professionals who expect to rise to higher roles.



I’ve always thought these things are mandatory’ish but it certainly is awkward in these virus laden times. I’m going to something on Thurs of this week that seemed too awkward to skip but there’s a decent chance it ruins my trip three days later and possibly means I bring a virus to elderly relatives.


Wear a kn95

Or skip it

Don’t risk your health for some dumb work event

No one should be requiring in person maskless attendance at events right now
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 17:50     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Fact of life business is a pyramid scheme. It is up or out. For every 55-65 year old person at work there are 10x the amount of 25-35 year old people.

The difference is literally attending work events. My old company 10 years ago had an event and people were asking where was I. When I got reached out to I realized not a single person out of the 10-15 people I actually worked with directly. All socializing. I have 95 percent of my connections through events. For instance one party back in 1997 we did mechanical Bull riding in suits. I got tossed hard so did my coworker. He happens to be a CEO now. I ran into him and he started laughing and joking about our bull ride from 25 years ago!! No way he would remember me otherwise
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 17:42     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Why are you having all these social events during a COVID surge right before the holidays? I would decline to participate as well.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 17:35     Subject: Disappointed in junior staff

Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.


You have your own religion? How did you start it?

BTW we serve mock tails my company and my wife attended twice when pregnant. She ate food, had a Virgin pina colada or a soda. I only drink 2-3 drinks as wife with me a boss. Very little drinking going on. I have more cokes and coffee then liquor