Anonymous wrote:At our ES not ever teachers’ kids are in AAP, and several of PTO moms whom volunteered a lot didn’t get their kids into AAP.
Anonymous wrote:^I am speaking from personal experience. It wasn’t an advanced class but a class only offered at the school virtually. It was a simple “Sorry, it’s filled.” They gave my kid two other completely unrelated options that would fit in his schedule. It’s about what fits in, not what you want at that point. We certainly weren’t demanding a class spot and bus transportation. Lesson learned, we are already researching other virtual options outside of FCPS for next year.
I firmly think they need to stop the transportation for AAP centers and one of mine went through AAP but stayed at the base school. There are so many other things to spend the money on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be fine if they got rid of the Centers at MS and ES. I also think a better model would be to have an Advanced Math and Advanced LA class and have kids change classes based on their ability level in each area. Group Math and Science and LA and Social Studies but allow kids to switch classes based on their needs.
x1 million
Cluster for ES and MS
What about the schools that only have a handful of advanced math or LA kids? Their math class has 3 students and the one next door has 65?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Nice bullying tactic right there: Using title in a derogatory way to make it name calling and establish an "other" group. Here is hoping you only do that on message boards, and not around your kids. If you want to make a statement that you are against AAP, have an argument with valid points. Don't start bullying people to claim things are unfair. Have proof.
Funny how you didn't feel the need to lecture 16:16 and 22:52 for their bullying tactics.![]()
DP
Not really because I only read the last few posts. Why read page after page of this- I skipped to the end. You can lecture them, I feel sure of it. Here are points you can use that have been talked about in the past:
Reasons aap sucks
1. AAP perpetuates racial and sea inequalities
2. The center model uses more buses during a time we have a shortage and environmentally is not helpful
3. The children in the center program can feel pressure at a youbg age that may not be helpful from a
Mental health standpoint
4. Creating a center with gen Ed classes can make the gen Ed kid feel bad about themselves
5. The process of admission itself seems very subjective and may miss children who will do well
Reasons to keep aap
1. State law mandates some kind of gifted program
2. Principals tell teachers to only meet with their low or medium reading groups, so the higher groups rarely have small group time
The real reason FCPS keeps aap;
They look at test scores and want to keep affluent and high performing students from going to privates so they offer this program. It works and is the main reason they won’t get rid of it. (They will never say this)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Nice bullying tactic right there: Using title in a derogatory way to make it name calling and establish an "other" group. Here is hoping you only do that on message boards, and not around your kids. If you want to make a statement that you are against AAP, have an argument with valid points. Don't start bullying people to claim things are unfair. Have proof.
Funny how you didn't feel the need to lecture 16:16 and 22:52 for their bullying tactics.![]()
DP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Nice bullying tactic right there: Using title in a derogatory way to make it name calling and establish an "other" group. Here is hoping you only do that on message boards, and not around your kids. If you want to make a statement that you are against AAP, have an argument with valid points. Don't start bullying people to claim things are unfair. Have proof.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.
I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
I'm curious about if you ever asked for anything? I'm not a PTA mom, my kid is below average, and I get the teachers for my kid that I ask for because I am vocal about my child's needs. I bet the PTA moms are, too. Are you??
Nope. I had one conversation -one- with the principal over placement one year but ultimately deferred to where they put DC. There were things I wanted for DC that the ES did give (like advance math tracking, certain teachers, etc.) but I never asked for them (even though I wanted to).
Parents need to advocate for their kids. In my experience, the school does what it can to accommodate requests because it reduces parent complaints and makes their lives easier.
We were the quiet family until DD was in fourth. We were having a conversation on the sideline of a soccer game and came to the realization that we got the new or dud teachers because we where the easy going one who took pride in never bothering the school. For our younger kid we've made requests every year and she'd gotten the best teachers and level III and advanced math even though she in no way deserved it
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:anecdotally, all of the room parents from K/1/2 at our school wound up getting their kids into AAP one way or another (some are guests in the local level IV).
we were curious who would step up for the other three classes this year since all prior room parents had kids in the same program-- guess what? those classes found room parents right off the bat, and the AAP class had to put out a special request for someone to be the room parent after no one answered the initial call.
Made me chuckle -- did people get what they want and then stop volunteering? I will note several came forward on the second request.
Oh look it's "PTA moms get preferential treatment for AAP" lady. No, they don't, that's not how this works. Step away from the wine, Sarah/Jessica/Katie.
They absolutely did at my ES. I remember distinctly talking to some of the "in" PTA mom types. One conversation specifically blew my mind, where a few of them were ticking of their list as to who they wanted for teachers next year for their kids and they were giving to to [principal's FIRST name] next week. They did. And they got what they asked for.
LOL at you being shocked at people using the principal's first name. Ours has a first name too and he always signs emails with his first name and everyone uses his first name when talking about him. So many people here read so much into things that are total bullshit.
Calm down. That is one factor. I knew these women. I knew their relationships with the admin at our school. The first name basis was more than just the principal's name - there was familiarity there that other parents did not have. I'm not sure why you're even offering your ignorant opinion on a situation that you were not personally involved in and I was. The only one "reading" things into other things is the person who wasn't there - you.
+1
DP. I know what you're talking about. Same thing at our school. The principal is quite chummy with several of the moms who volunteer for everything. And lo and behold, all of their children got into AAP, with some principal placed. I guess it's good to be connected!![]()
So many jealous mommies.